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I just don't always find the labeling thing to be very freeing. If anything, it's putting yourself in a box.

I get what you're saying. Just because some people are born under unusual circumstances doesn't mean there are more than two genders. I know liberals who agree with you. We have become too obsessed with finding new labels for ourselves.

I don't think history as ever been as cartoony as "liberals vs conservatives." We aren't Autobots vs Decepticons here, hehe. Slight topic change, I really like your signature! I debate hard with you, Censored, because I know you can take it. :)

Again, we don't live in a cartoon world where only the right has been violent.

What do you think the criteria was for the wacko I mentioned?

George W and Andrew Jackson are still the worst presidents in my book. Knowingly causing needless death over a long period of time is enough for me. But to be fair, Trump's term is just beginning. ;)

YES! That's what I'm talking about!!! This hostility against people who aren't "right" or "left" enough.

I doubt you'd be saying that if I was talking about a conservative president.

Again, very recent term. And I don't see that distinction being made very much at all.

Murderous foreign policy. He knew the war couldn't be won. He knew, and did nothing. In fact he ran a campaign giving the impression his opponent would cause war, but he was the one who ended up doing it! I don't give a crap what else he did.

That is a good example. Another example is President Johnson. Some baby boomers I talk to love his war on poverty. But others recall the chant "LBJ! How many kids did you kill today?" A lot of the victims of the KKK (African Americans, Jews, Catholics) considered themselves quite right-wing on...

I wish that every conflict in our existence could be as cut and dry as WWII was. But it was that moral victory that led to the US arrogantly going into Vietnam, assuming anything we did was right. And it wasn't just conservatives who got us into that mess. Btw, not to police your words, but...

Again, we can do this all day. You only see a problem with the right, I see a problem with both. On that message board, I had just gotten done desperately trying to explain to a Trump supporter how his trips to Mar A Lago were costing the tax payers a fortune, and driving up the prices for...

That's always your line, even when the left behaves badly, it's the right's fault. That's not how life works. How are you being any different from the most hardline right winger?

Sometimes that happens. And sometimes both sides are indeed to blame.

Again, this isn't a cartoon. Do you really think the wacko I just described was speaking in self defense?

I do call it out when I see it. I just see it on both sides. You only seem to see it on one.

Not possible since it's instantly silenced at every attempt. ;) Dude, you know that's not me. And you know that's not the examples I gave. Not everything is about the virtuous liberals and evil conservatives. This isn't a cartoon.

It wouldn't be an issue if not for both sides. But, we could go on like this all day. ;)

Glad we agree. Which is why I won't tolerate any actor getting blacklisted for having the current "wrong" opinion.