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Translation: "I will only like him if I think he's a conservative and/or a Christian."

If you're talking about Chris Wallace and Shep Smith, I agree. They are the only ones giving Fox credibility at this point. Fox & Friends in the morning and the line up at night are the definition of bias. And it didn't use to be so bad, they used to have interesting debates. But lately they've...

Oh absolutely and to Marty's credit it took me awhile to realize Telly's puppeteer had changed.

Personal taste of course but I adored Brian Muehl's Telly and his weird friendship with Oscar, lol. :grouchy: Marty Robinson is definitely the definitive Snuffy for me, but to be fair to Jerry Nelson, he was part of that very touching moment when Big Bird realizes Snuffy is real because of his...

I didn't really mean to bring up politics, I'm not even a Trump person. I just thought it was humorous to hear the TP people claim they'd never use Jim to justify an agenda. ;)

Jim was even used to justify that juvenile "Trump supporters can't be Muppet fans" article. ;)

I wouldn't think much of you if it was just a weather-vane. :)

Exactly! You know, cooperation is very important, but it never meant "we must all agree." It meant retaining your various viewpoints and finding a way to make them all work together. :)

Who does that remind me of? Hmm....( :coy: ) Hold on, I'll get it! ( :coy: ) Well yeah, because Jim Henson was the leader of his own group, and also a public figure, recognized and praised everywhere. He knew what that was like, he lived it. You're not going to get that same quality from an...

But like I said earlier, Jim's kids were only teenagers in 1978. As adults in charge of a company, they may not have seen what Jim saw in Steve, or understood how to handle him. They probably saw him as more of a peer, since he was very young himself. And people do change. I'm sure Steve was...

Absolutely, and very few people are jerks most of the time. Or saints most of the time. I mean we all have our good and bad moments.

Well I agree with you there. Maybe Steve complained a bit too much, but the material (and the show's dismal ratings) speak for themselves.

Lol, that would be funny. I know at least one case where a studio demanded an actress stop performing a character outside a TV show. Not sure what the rule is generally, but probably it depends on the specific case. I'm so sorry, I'll keep you in my thoughts. ::hugs::

Oh you may very well be 100% right, I just thought it was funny because I had just read that yesterday.

Weird, someone on Tough Pigs the other day was insisting Steve did the wrong shape, lol. Eh, who knows. Artie reminded me of Kermit like in the early days when he wasn't super polished and I liked it for that reason. And some members just took that completely the wrong way at the time and...

Well Steve was a recast himself, to be fair. I dunno, maybe it's not as weird to me as a soap opera fan, lol. You have multiple people playing the same character over the years, some are good, some are not particularly memorable, some say the first was the best, others argue otherwise. Aw I'm...

Unexpectedly Kermit was performed by a different puppeteer, Artie Esposito. Some fans here were afraid Steve had been replaced and got very angry about it. For my part, I said that, regardless of Steve's status, Artie did a good job. And for my trouble was told that I must not want the Muppets...

Plus remember the Henson kids were literally kids in 1978, or at least still teenagers. It was probably strange for all involved later on when the kids controlled the company. Relationships and dynamics change.

Heh. Personally I defended Artie's performance of Kermit here, and for that I was attacked and told I must not want the Muppets to be good. :rolleyes: Yeah... (Note: I know it wasn't you, Daffy)

Try hearing that in Kermit's voice. :)