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Really? I thought Fozzie was the absolute worst thing about the show. And it's weird to see people fault Oz for having an opinion on the newer films even though he participated in Muppets From Space. I'm sure stepping away from the Muppets after Jim's death was very hard for him to do...

Yeah watching Steve's Kermit in live appearances was often painful. Yes, the amphibian schtick was a well he went back to way too many times.

Do you really believe that three of Henson's kids, the Disney Company and a few others who knew Whitmire would ALL put their credibility on the line by outright lying in order to make him look as bad as they could?

It's speculation, but your probably closer to the truth than anyone saying the Henson are lying or are being paid off. Personally, I feel very strongly that Whitmire did a very good job early on of putting himself out there in such a way that he wrapped a good chunk of Muppet fandom around his...

But you won't.

I've felt for years that his Fozzie has gotten pretty terrible. Honestly, Fozzie was the absolute worst thing about the 2015 TV show. The later episodes were much better because there was a whole lot less Fozzie in them.

That doesn't make it a good film.

Do I miss 2D Disney animation? Of course I do. But let's face reality for a second. Disney's 2D films were losing money, some even going as far as being outright bombs. In the meantime, computer animated films from all different companies have been massive hits these past 15 years, and have...

You've got to be kidding me. Walt was about entertainment sure, but that's why his brother Roy was his business partner, because first and foremost, a company has to put money first, or else they'll eventually run themselves out of business. If Walt ran around doing whatever he wanted without...

But Frank Oz isn't Steve Whitmire. Oz is a legacy Muppeteer, Hensons's best friend and closest collaborator.

Well I'm specifically referring to the Webby Awards, which I know the Muppets have won at least one.

But here's the thing...does anyone honestly think the Henson company or...whatever the heck that German company was called, could have done a better job? Does anyone actually believe the Hensons would have had the ability to put out two features, a TV show, a few TV specials and several award...

Ah my mistake. That totally cancels out all my points and opinions right? Nellson, Hundt, Ozz and Goals were all better performers anyway. ;)

Funny how, the Kermit moment of the past decade people were most moved by (Pictures in My Head) is the epitome of sad Whitmere Kermit.

Everyone keeps blaming the writers for how Kermit has been for the past 20 some-odd years. But I can't be the only one who got aggravated at the way Whitmere performed Kermit on live appearances on talk shows and other engagements, right? That stupid "this is my frozen frog face" joke repeated...

But I'm willing to bet that you don't know Whitmere well enough as a PERSON - and not an on-camera entertainer - to really be able to say that with confidence. Lots of performers put on a show that makes them out to be an entirely different person than they are behind closed doors. Spoken like...

I don't know why this bothers people as much as it does. Its like, as I said previously, they're so emotionally attached to these fictional characters that they're angry the Henson children abanonded them or something. The Muppets were in a pretty sad state for quite a while, even while owned...

But even if Oz had said that he WAS Bert and Jim WAS Ernie, he would have had every right to say it, considering him and Jim created those characters and their personalities. Much different than Whitmere, who inherited Jim's signature character 35 years after he'd been created.

That's been a huge problem across the board on this forum and I think that's a very big reason why so many people are blindly defending Steve or savagely damning the Disney Company, Henson's kids or anyone else on the dreaded "anti-Whitmere" train. I'm going to speak honestly here. First and...

Uhhhhh, "The Mouse" is just shorthand some people use when talking about the company. You...you don't really think people are blaming Mickey Mouse himself, right? Right?