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"The Muppets: Green with Envy" Teaser Trailer On-line

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, May 23, 2011.

  1. dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Wow! In just a few short hours we went from 527,866 views on Youtube to 669,971 and the number is still growing! this movie is going to be huge!
  2. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Um, I'm sorry about this, but half of those are mine. :o hehe
  3. dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Ya and the other half is everyone else on here inculding me i know i have at least about 200 of them lol!
  4. Duke Remington Active Member

    I completely agree, Gorgon. And it sickens me to no end. :grouchy:

    To make matters worse, even popular networking sites like YouTube and Facebook are crawling with trolls as well.

    For example: far too many people who never think before they talk constantly slam Disney for buying the Muppets and accussing them of ruining them, which is entirely untrue. They can never seem to get it through their thick skulls that The Jim Henson Company did a very lousy job handling them before the buyout, completely oblivious to Henson's failures (ie: shows like "Tinseltown" getting pulled from the air too soon, the Fraggle Rock movie and Dark Crystal sequel being stuck in development h*ll, too many promises unfilfilled, etc.).

    It also drives me crazy when haters go about saying that the Muppets can no longer be good because of such factors as the deaths of Jim Henson, Richard Hunt and Jerry Juhl and the lack of involvement from Frank Oz and Jerry Nelson, without realizing that even though the Muppet characters will live forever, their creators/performers will not. Also, people will want to move on to pursue other endeavors (Frank moving on to become a director) and people may even have to retire at some point for one reason or another (Jerry Nelson having to retire from puppetering for health reasons, etc.).

    The franchise would be doomed to crash and burn for sure if they relied on the originators completely or depended on them too much!

    They also need to quit complaining about character voices being different or "wrong-sounding" (ie: saying that Steve Whitmire's Kermit doesn't sound anything like Jim and not knowing who Steve is, etc.). If they knew the names of the people performing them today and their backstories, they'd probably be eating their words right about now. Again, the performers are not going to be around forever, so recasts are, shall we say, a necessary evil as a means of keeping the characters alive. People will have to hand over the keys and move on at some point.

    There. I feel better now. :)

    Getting back on topic, I agree that the trailer is awesome and very clever. Even I felt slightly fooled at first, but even then, I knew that it was a Muppet trailer because of Jason Segel and Amy Adams being the two human leads in the picture.
  5. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I agree. Most people out there know nothing about the Muppets, but speak about them with such authority. They think Brian Henson still has something to do with them. Heck, many people think he performs Kermit. Nobody realizes that Jim has been gone for 21 years! I'm not a fan of *everything* the Muppets do, but they've produced some darn good stuff over the past two decades. Also, the false idea that Muppets don't have feet just solidifies the ignorance of AICN and IMDB forum members.

    Some people will never like anything, but I believe this movie hast he potential to surprise a lot of the naysayers.
  6. terrimonster Member

    Not only that, they're just quoting Family Guy, without even knowing what they're talking about. It was only marginally funny in Family Guy, and even then it was because of the obvious exaggeration. When you're the 579,000th person to say it, it doesn't count as an original thought. I think people like to say it because it makes them feel knowledgeable, but as a rule of thumb, quoting Family Guy doesn't make one sound knowledgeable.
  7. dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    What was the quote from Famly guy?
  8. Duke Remington Active Member

    Another thing about the uninformed "fans" that irritates me is that sometimes think that things like "Muppets from Space" and "It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie" were made by Disney, which is entirely untrue!

    It's also annoying when they think that Disney made "The Muppets Wizard of Oz", being completely oblivious to the fact that Oz was already in production well before the Disney acquisition.
  9. dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well thats why there are great sites like this the Muppet Mindset and Toughpigs, to help educate people about who did what.
    As far as Disney and Henson are concered people think that the whole thing was handled wrong ever since Jim passed. and that the Muppets should have never been bought by Disney. they forget the fact that before his death that was want Jim wanted!
    In the Book "Street Gang" it really talks about what Jim wanted out of Disney, the problem was Disney wanted to get a hold of the Sesame Street Muppets as well. Jim and the floks at Sesame at the time knew that if that was to happen Sesame would fail.
    The way things are now I think works, Sesame is owned by itself it can contorl what the there Muppets do and don't do. The Classic Muppets have a nice home at Disney now form the looks of it they are getting the treatment that Jim wanted back in 1990 it has just taken them time to figure out how to make it all come about. The one that is in the hurt is The Jim Henson Company, and mostly the Fraggles they just can't seem to find the right market for them to even think about makeing a movie. So it is what it is I think if you really look at it that way I think Jim would be happy with where everyone is at.
  10. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Stewie reminds Brian about the importance of going to the doctor by saying, “Jim Henson had a 'wait-and-see' attitude, and look what happened to him. Now we’ve got wrong-sounding Muppets!” That's probably the Family Guy quote people are talking about.
  11. Duke Remington Active Member

    Thank goodness for that. :)
  12. terrimonster Member

    Here's the Family Guy clip:
  13. dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I have seen that before, to me thats just talking more about Jim's death and him not seeking medical attion when he should have.
  14. BEAR Active Member

    Oh my God!

    It looks like it's finally here...The Muppets really ARE coming back to the big screen, and so am I to Muppet Central. I've been away from the forums for a while, but what better time to come back and discuss this momentus occassion in Muppet fandom.

    I thought this teaser was very clever and look at all the old familiar furry and foamy faces. I'm so excited about this!:):D

    Now all I'm waiting for is true evidence of a Fraggle Rock film in the works.:smirk:
  15. BEAR Active Member

    Whoa! Where can I get one of those?
  16. Frogpuppeteer Well-Known Member

    my friend who works at our local movie theater gave it to me...this is the kind thats printed on both ends.....not sure if its ever going to come out in stores
  17. Pork Active Member

    Squeeeeeeeee! This trailer is Fantastic! So uber excited!
  18. dwmckim Well-Known Member

    Duke, i agree with a lot of your post, but there was one section i had to comment on (which is really just an example of a "type" of post that others have posted similar kind of posts recently as well, so i'm just using this as an example really...)

    I fully get the sentiments behind this - especially given a recent "controversial" post here lately - but this is a little bit of whitewashing of history. Yes, we've been very fortunate that the Muppets have a good team behind them at Disney and that they're enjoying the money/muscle of The Mouse right now, but that doesn't negate the fully legitimate concerns that many people (not just fans, but major players within Henson) had regarding whether or not Disney would be a good/appropriate home for them.

    Given the last couple years, it's easy to look at how Henson has struggled as they've stayed independant (Tinseltown, btw, isn't a good example as that was more an aired pilot more than something that "got pulled too soon") and at how the Muppets have been getting the red carpet treatment and exposure due to Disney - and forget everything else that took place between 1990 and circa 2008.

    Disney is a large company and its top management and their styles really affects everything else - the right people are in the right place right now and all is well. But don't forget the other managers/CEO's that have been in positions of power and how very different the story could have turned out if one of them was still in charge or if the Muppets came under Disney ownership at an earlier time than they did.

    Even within the specific Muppet branch, there have been three leaders. Chris Curtin was first and he actually was doing quite well handling the original transition - but internal Disney politics stemming from regime changes at the top led to his ouster and replaced him with an incompetent boob (whose name i never even bother to remember because he's best left forgotten) and placed a screeching halt on the Kermit's 50th Anniversary promotion that only just started. This guy had no interest in keeping the Muppets going as a thriving brand and thank Frog he was eventually replaced with Lyelle Breier!

    Things are great now and this is the moment Muppet fans have long waited for. But it's also good to remember - at least in the back of one's mind - that internal corporation politics could also at some point lead to Breier being replaced with someone who really shouldn't be in charge of them and/or the upper echelons at Disney deciding later on after the big movie project, that they don't want to put as much weight/support towards the Muppet division and focus much more on their latest pet projects.

    The point i'm basically making is right now we're in the midst of a wonderful chapter. But it's also good to remember it's a small part of a larger uneven book. I'm not saying don't be happy and excited (since we should be - we have every reason to be), but at the same time, don't fall into the trap of thinking that this kind of mass support from the company as a whole is an eternal thing or that what's led us here has been all pink clouds and rainbows in how Disney's treated them pre and post sale.

    But, at any rate - just a quick reminder of the larger history - now back to our regularly scheduled bouncing off the walls...
  19. beaker Well-Known Member

    Reading DW's post above me, it reminds me of when I first joined Muppet Central Forums in November 1998...had no idea it would be THIRTEEN years to the day almost that I'd have to wait for the glorious return of the Muppets(ok, sure later the next year we had MFS...but that ultimately wasn't as rewarding as it could be)

    Right now...we're at the potential to be where Star Wars community fans were in 1993-1997...right before the special editions and phantom menace. Prior to that, by the 1990's Star Wars fandom was more underground. Muppet fandom has long been underground. I'm shocked when people know even just a few of the Muppet names...never have I met an *actual* fan in real life out and about(tho I once saw someone with a kermit tattoo)

    It's indeed an exciting time. When we hit late summer and into fall with the insane media and marketing saturation with the Muppets by Disney...I can imagine many thought they never thought we'd end up where we are.
  20. dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I agree 1000%

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