1. Welcome to the Muppet Central Forum!
    You are viewing our forum as a guest. Join our free community to post topics and start private conversations. Please contact us if you need help with registration or your account login.

  2. Forum Upgrade May 25
    We will be upgrading our forum software on Saturday May 25. This is a major upgrade that will add many new features and enhance security.

  3. Radionomy ends May 31
    Radionomy has announced that all US stations, including Muppet Central Radio, will be removed on May 31, 2019.

  4. You Can Be a Muppeteer
    Watch the Sesame Street Puppeteer Workshop with the amazing Sesame Street performers: Jennifer Barnhart, Matt Vogel and Marty Robinson.

    Dismiss Notice
  5. Sesame Street Season 49
    Sesame Street's 49th season officially began Saturday November 17 on HBO. After you see the new episodes, post here and let us know your thoughts.

The Steven Universe thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by mr3urious, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Just watched the pilot and the first 2 episodes, and already I'm loving it. It really blurs the line between a boys' show (with its main protagonist being one) and a girls' show (with his sidekicks being them).

    It's also notable in that it's the first Cartoon Network show to be produced by a woman, ex-Adventure Time storyboard artist Rebecca Sugar. SU's not like that show at all, though, aside from them both being action/adventure series.
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    For years, I've been hearing about how there's a lack of female creative forces in cartoons and comic books and that when male comic/cartoon writers create female characters, it's about fifty fifty. And they get flack for being too sexy. That's something that, while I can see the point of, would just brush off as some unwinnable gender based argument. Until I saw this show.

    We have three female characters who aren't unrealistically hot nor unattractive. One of the female characters is fat. That's amazing. Can you think of one fat female character in cartoons and fiction? Like, you'd get Big Bertha of the West Coast Avengers (and she can transform into a thin woman) and Toots from Drawn Together (who was barely chubby but the writers LOVED making fat jokes). They wouldn't let one of the Gargoyles be a female because they didn't want an overweight female protagonist. I don't know why this is super amazing to me, but it just is... if this show was written by a dude, they'd probably all be supermodels and one would like to eat. That's about it.

    Not to mention the fact the show channels the right things from anime. The flower light cannon bit? That felt like something ripped out of some Japanese show... just the tone and visuals and music. There's really a lot I could say about how remarkable this series is, and hopefully it gets even better as it goes on. And yes, it doesn't feel like Adventure Time at all. It's closer to Bravest Warriors, but not by much.

    And I agree... it's not a girl's show, it's not a boy's show... it doesn't feel like it needs to pander to any gender. Which, unfortunately might just harm the show because of the same reasons that got Sim Biotic Titan cancelled. Who are they going to market the toys to? Jeez... I hate when that's the only way they'll keep a show on the air. Hopefully it will find a niche in an indie toy retailer like Jazzwares, like the Adventure Time line.
  3. StevieOpossum

    StevieOpossum Well-Known Member

    This show looks amazing, I can't wait to see it.

    Sadly, no matter how good it'll be it's gonna get ripped to shreds by the internet because it's not a show from their childhood.
    galagr and Drtooth like this.
  4. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    The show is amazing; I loved the pilot and while I'm kind of upset the designs were simplified since it, I still think it looks great. As much as I enjoy the absurdist humor of Uncle Grandpa, I'm gonna be able to get into this series a lot more.
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I do indeed love Uncle Grandpa, but it's a show that's so incredibly insane and reveling in it's stupidity and surreality that it drains me every time I watch it. This series has nothing but potential for a rich deep storyline. At first, I wondered why they had the series pick up at the middle of the story without explaining anything... but then the second episode gave more into the backstory. It's very non-linear with the origin story and why the characters are the way they are, and I rather like it that way. More pieces of the puzzle will reveal themselves in time. I dare say this could be even grander in scale than Adventure Time.
  6. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Pearl's new design with her huge cartoonish eyes and pointy nose actually remind me so much of an Osamu Tezuka series. I'm starting to like it now that I've noticed that.

    I find it really sweet and refreshing how Steve is so honest-to-Glob fascinated by his dad's past even though he's pretty much a has-been now. :)
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Boom's also planning a Steven Universe comic book. Unlike Regular Show and Adventure Time, this one is coming out pretty close to when the shoe began. Hopefully they won't wind up tripping over plot points like they did the first 8 issues of Bravest Warriors (before they just copied the cartoon). There's a preview for it in the Adventure Time Spookfest special.
  8. Xerus

    Xerus Well-Known Member

    I really love Steven Universe. Steven is a sweet adorable character and I like the way he sings. The Crystal Gems always look puzzled at him whenever he starts singing, but then smile and start enjoying it. And it seems like Steven's gem only activates whenever he gets a passion for something. Like an ice cream snack or a saying about hot dogs. And each Crystal Gem has their unique personality. Garnet is the cool, sometimes silent, type. Amethyst is the funny tomboy. And Pearl is the serious logical one.

    And I like the voice cast too.

    ZACH CALLISON: Steven Universe
    ESTELLE: Garnet
    MICHAELA DEITZ: Amethyst
    TOM SCHARPLING: Greg Universe

    I really like how Deedee Mango, who was one of the Mousketeers from the 80's Mickey Mouse Club and part of the Disney rock group The Party, is part of this show.
  9. snichols1973

    snichols1973 Well-Known Member

    Serious and logical; reminds me a bit of Star Trek's Mr. Spock, (just kidding, l0l).

    Pearl also has her gentler side as well; here's how she describes her own weapon-summoning technique: "The petals' dance seems improvised, but it is being calculated in real time, based on the physical properties of this planet. With hard work and dedication, you can master the magical properties of your gem and perform your own dance"; she appears to have the poise and grace of a ballerina while showing concern for Steven's safety.

    Each of the other guardians has their own unique way of summoning their special powers: Amethyst can just effortlessly summon it at will, Garnet attunes her mind in harmony with nature and channels its collective energy through her special gem-powered magic gloves.

    As teammates, there might have been some sort of sisterly bond between Rose, Pearl, Amethyst, and Garnet, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see if future episodes will present further insight into Rose's life......

    Steven obviously inherited his powers from his mother, Rose Quartz, who was also one of the Guardians (when the laser light cannon activates, you can see glimpses of Rose Quartz's interventional powers when the town's safety is threatened by the "redeye gem", so her presence might apparently still be there to some extent); and the "Gem Glow" episode hints that his special power might possibly be activated through the feelings of elation, rather than eating his favorite ice-cream sandwiches, since his powers tend to fade when he starts to feel anxious.

    I like the work of the Korean animation directors (Ki-Yong Bae, Seonjae Lee, Jin-hee Park et al.) and how Steven's character design seems to have been inspired by anime style....
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    What I really love about Steven Universe is that the voice actors are ones you don't get to hear too often. Especially the female characters. Seems like every time there's a female role in a cartoon it inevitably goes to Grey Delise, Tara Strong, and if the character's African American (or, actually doesn't have to be) Cree Summer. Now, they're all great, no complaints. But this gives the show a unique sound.
  11. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Amethyst sounds a lot like she was voiced by Pamela Adlon or Ashleigh Ball at first. Her voice has that same husky tomboyish quality of Ashley Spinelli or Rainbow Dash, which I love. :)
  12. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    The most recent episode was really sweet, with Steven meeting a girl (as was teased in the intro) and continuing to struggle with his powers. Parappa's not the only one with funky flow. :D
  13. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    It was great seeing the latest episode. I love how Garnet is more hands-off with rearing Steven as opposed to Pearl's over-protectiveness; that is, letting him figure things out on his own.
    Drtooth likes this.
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I especially liked how Pearl was essentially not paying attention to Steven and repeating the exact same thing he already said.

    I get a LOT of that on this board from time to time.
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Well, that episode was thoroughly depressing.

  16. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    It's a great, albeit depressing, allegory of old age and maturity. Steven things he's feeling too old for certain things, and then adulthood smacks him in the face all of a sudden; as he quickly abandons childhood, he begins to rapidly age (thanks to his gem powers).

    On the plus side, we get to see the lion guardian re-appear! :)
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    And that bit where Amethyst went "boop" to Pearl was priceless.
  18. AlittleMayhem

    AlittleMayhem Well-Known Member

    I am so glad this thread exists because it reminded me to catch up with the series! :D

    Ah, I love this show so much! My face is still hurting a little from smiling so much!
  19. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Onion is a pretty frightening individual. Alone he's just an extremely bored, mischievous little mute who gets away with everything and is too young to understand the consequences of his actions, but give him magical powers and he's a menace to society... and still gets away with his mayhem! Something is definitely up with this town! :eek:

    Also, the latest episode was pretty brutal and sad. And with plenty of adult fear to go along with it.
  20. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    All right! We get a storyline with the Lion and Connie in the same episode! :)

    I especially loved the scene in which they were all running on the ocean. That really felt like something out of a Miyazaki film.

Share This Page