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President Obama!

ryhoyarbie

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I never paid attention in American History back in high school, but I do remember my teacher saying something along the lines of how George Washington didn't want us to have different parties. Just wondering if anyone knows anything more about that.
I believe Washington meant by saying a two party system would divide the country, as it always has done since the two party system has arose.

That being said, as mentioned earlier, both candidates were a hit or miss. Although both presidential candidates give good speeches, as evident from last night, the task ahead is a long one that I don't know if either one could face.

But now Obama is the president and must work with congress to get the country back up and running again.
 

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I was really expecting it to be a lot closer than this. (but then I expected landslide victories for both Gore and Kerry)

But Obama wins and that's all that matters!

I watched McCain's concession speech and I commend him for being very repsectful to Obama

I respect McCain as a person he simply had the wrong ideas on how to run the country.

I have to wonder how much my vote really counted though since I voted for Obama but my state went to McCain.
McCain had been crying before he made his speech. His eyes were a shade of pinkish red. I thought he gave a good speech and I thought Obama gave a good speech.
 

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You know? I never got any of that stuff from my neighbors, and I can't say I'm not happy about it. Too much noise. :stick_out_tongue:
 

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It's funny how politics can rip people apart if those people let it.

Four years ago I found out of my friends voted against gay marriage in North Dakota. Being a homosexual, that honestly hurt to hear coming from him since he knew I was gay, but I had asked. It took me a day to realize it wasn't anything personal or an attack against me. It was just his idea of marriage. His value. I let it roll off my back and we still continue to be friends to this day.

Movin' right along...
 

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Washington warned about division, but Jefferson, Franklin and others wanted vigorous debate. (Jefferson and Franklin had more experience than Washington with politics and government on an international level-- Washington was a soldier and a farmer.) The two party system is intended to be divisive-- it is through debate (respectful debate-- not name calling and nonsense but real debate of issues and ideas) that we get the best leadership. It was essential that America be a place where disagreement was allowed and celebrated-- in 1776 the idea of having the right to publicly disagree with your leaders was radical. It changed the world. There is no freedom without the freedom to disagree.

What is amazing about last night, for me, is that Americans took to the streets in celebration. All across the country people spontaneously gathered-- they filled Pennsylvania Avenue (which hasn't happened after any other presidential election in my lifetime-- not even Reagan's decisive wins). And they did it peacefully! Can anyone think of a time when all across the country people took to the streets in celebration since WWII? (riots and violence don't count here and individual cities celebrating a sports victory aren't national events) I think this was the first time in 64 years that we've seen that. Amazing. That gives me hope for Americans coming together.
 

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Well, I am celebrating, all be it in a kind of low key way. I'm glad he won! Although I'm not really that surprised, I did also expect it to be at least a little closer! I'm enjoying what we have, even if it did take a while to sink in, but I think it's only natural to put some thought towards the future. I've even started jokingly saying "Clinton 2012!" although I do support and have the highest hopes for Obama.
I've never been too into politics, and I still don't watch debates or speeches on TV, but I think the state of the country combined with this election has made me follow it a bit more closely.
I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I'm still not registered to vote.
:cry: That doesn't stop me from being a proud American though, no matter what anyone thinks!
:attitude:
 

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you know it kind of shocked me that more women didn't vote for Palen. She showed the true spirit of the strong American working woman, and she was preety to! I personaly would really like to see her prove herself more with the goverment.
 

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I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I'm still not registered to vote.
That doesn't stop me from being a proud American though, no matter what anyone thinks!
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Well I am a bit bias, hehe, but I do not think that makes you any less of an American. There's a lot more to being a good American than just voting. I think voting for issues you care about is very important. But if you don't find a person who shares your values, you shouldn't have to vote for them just for the sake of voting. Especially when we're not really given a lot of choices. We deserve better. :smile:
 

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Oh man, was I ziffled! lol
Anyway Heralde, I didn't mean you. Actually, I was thinking of my uncle when I said it, but for obvious reasons I didn't want to start a tirade about my family. It wasn't that I didn't like the candidates, (infact I really did wish I could vote!). I just never actually got around to the job of regestering. It seems like a kind of poor excuse now, but it was because oI am visually impaired that I felt a bit blocked and confused by the process, and didn't know where to begin.
:embarrassed: I plan to be prepared for the next one though! How soon is too soon to registered?
Ooh, Heralde, I liked that line about womens' superiority! Can I use it as a signature?
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As for Palen, my cousin said she was scared of her, lol! I'll admit that the idea of voting for a woman seemed tempting, just for a moment, but then I didn't agree with her and McCain's ideas, and that's what an election should be about in my mind, even if the media and the general public don't always see it that way, lol!
 
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