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Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Old Thunder, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    And they are NOT doing that job. Yes, the forum...exists...but that's far from running it and nothing is being done to make it secure
  2. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    Thank you. This forum is ran worse than the discord. @gavry3 and @Old Thunder run the discord brilliantly. During my time on there (i stepped away from it in October ) they had events such as streaming muppet shows on rabbit. But that isnt the main thing. Gavry and David are interested in their members, they care for members feedback and if they are in a spot of bother or need support @gavry3 , @Old Thunder and the other mods will support them. @The Count and @Phillip don't do that. In fact in 4 years of being here they've held no events, the fourm hasn't changed and I've never had any interaction with Phillip. Even when I've messaged him for support and help. @dwayne1115 you may be happy with the current situation the forum is in but I'm not and many others feel the same way

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  3. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well agree to disagree on that. We use to have a very active thread strictly for reporting Spammers and bots on the forum, and I don't think I've seen a post in that thread in a very long time. It used to be a daily thing that me or others would have to report something, but here lately all is quite. Which I think is due in part to one of the latest forum upgrades.
  4. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    Muppet central is a joke. That post about muppet central radio just shows how bad it's become. Ed only posts on Hensonville City and Phillip just posts about MC Radio.

    I don't just want new staff. I want a complete revamp of the site from top to bottom. Which includes a change in ownership and a new software.

  5. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Your wrong! I'm sorry, but your simply wrong. Phill starts a new thread every week about the newest episode of Sesame Street even if the street story is a repeat from seasons past. He has also started a new thread for every new episode of the new Muppet Babies series as well. As for Ed, I see him around on other threads as well. The both of them are active on this forum, and I'm sure they both have read everything being said here.
    Now since you brought up the Discord let me give you a few numbers. These are MC current numbers and hopfuly this will help prove my point.
    Disscutions: 52,866
    Messages: 1,008,360
    Members: 19,390
    Now of course the mods on the Discord can give a more personal touch, and outreach to their members. Because, and no disrespect to the Discord they do not have MC's kind of numbers. It's 3 mods vs. 19,390 members here on Muppet Central. You can't expect them to hold everyone's hand and blow everyone's nose when there is always a problem.
    Now in contrast to everything I have said. I would love to see a few new mods on the forum, but I think Phill may have a difficulties adding new mods. As a matter of fact before we had a huge forum upgrade Ed had a lot more privileges as a mod then he dose now. So there may also be something in that upgrade that will not allow to add new mods. Not to mention I'm sure they would have to do some kind of interview/screening to find the right fit for a new mod. It's not as simple as drawing names out of a hat or something.
    In conclusion, there are a lot of things to consider with the well being of the forum, and it simply takes time.
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  6. Old Thunder

    Old Thunder Well-Known Member

    Some people *cough cough* are missing the point. This isn't about what we want. This is about what's best for Muppet Central. Conor is jumping far too far here. I'm trying to ask politely for a little more involvement and an admin who listens. A change in ownership isn't necessary if those requirements are met.
  7. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    It's my opinion.

    Muppet Central hasn't changed at all in 4 years of me being here. I do not feel Ed and Phillip are doing enough to keep this forum running. It feels they aren't interested anymore. And a new sesame street episode post once a week could just be an automated post. And really isn't enough to justify him being active

  8. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    I'm using my sports fan brain to think about this

    In sport if fans aren't happy with team or are unhappy with the ownership they want change and if change isn't brought to the table they want a leadership change.

    Thats what I want. I want changes to the fourm. If that doesn't happen I want an ownership change
  9. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    ed has absolutely zero power to properly mod a forum and that's what you're not understanding. he cannot ban people. all he can do is delete posts and give people a slap on the wrist and say dont do that.

    all forums can give mods the power to temporarily or permanently ban people. ed cannot do this and he NEEDS this power. but phil refuses to give it to him
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  10. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    I guess I would ask myself "What could I do within my limited power to make the MC forums better?" Nothing keeping anyone here from starting a discussion on the latest Muppet video or Muppet Babies episode or latest appearance. Nothing here to keep anyone of us from starting a new games thread. Nothing here to stop any of us from posting the latest Muppet or Sesame Street or Muppeteer news.
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  11. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    Using your sports fan analogy, how much do you pay to go see your favorite team? Do you think that your favorite team is run to win games and win games only or is it run to make a profit?
  12. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    What does that really have to do with anything
  13. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    The point is, how much do you pay to be a member of the MC forums here?
  14. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member


    But just because I don't pay for something doesn't mean I can't ask for the mods to improve and do better.
    Our moaning and negativity will hopefully bring good things to the site if they listen to what we are saying

    Last edited: Jan 1, 2019
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  15. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    When has moaning and complaining ever solved anything?
  16. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    Your not getting it

    I'm a muppet fan. We're all muppet fans and we deserve somewhere brilliant where we can express that. This place is in need of a major revamp. From top to bottom. It's us fans joining here that has made MC popular and a lot of younger fans have made up the numbers in the last 9 years. A lot of us are unhappy.
  17. MWoO

    MWoO Well-Known Member

    This got off track real fast.

    Personally, i am sad to see that Muppet Central lacks updates on its main site. This is the site where I learned about the Palisades line that in many ways changed my life. Now there is almost nothing new on the main site, even though things have happened. No mention of the Diamond Select line? No mention of the 2015 show? Nothing about the live performances? Nothing about Steve being fired?!?

    I get it, Philip has a life and can't update like he use to. Thats cool. But people are offering to help him and being ignored. I dont want to see this site die. It was a great site with lots of content. But if this was the only Muppet site that someone visted, they wouldn't know about anything that happened within the last few years.

    Yes, they did make forum posts on those subjects, but literally anyone can do that. We dont need Philip to do that for us, we need him to do the bigger stuff. He should give others here the job of posting update threads and work on the actual site, or at least take the offer others have made to do that work for him.

    I guess I am just nostalgic for how it use to be when I joined. Every few days we had news of more Muppets figures, customs being made, statues being released, movies coming out, viral videos, etc. Yes, the activity was due to actual projects happening, but the site would lost about these things and promote activity. Now it seems that even when something happens there is little buzz. I just miss the days where various people were posting new creations inspired by the Muppets. I miss @Dearth and @ZootTheSaxman.

    I don't know. Maybe i just miss the old days when there was stuff to look forward to as opposed to looking back at what was and is no more.
  18. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    I guess I see it differently. We don't deserve anything. That comes across as a sense of entitlement. We don't pay a cent to use this site. It costs Phil money to run the site. He can run it as he sees fit. Yes, you can complain and ask for improvements. That is your right and feel free. But to state that we deserve it or demand that they improve the site or else sell it comes across as a bit, well . . . . I won't say it.
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  19. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    Yes, I miss the ol' days as well. Part of it is the fact that the Muppets ain't what they used to be. No denying that. They had a brief resurgence when the Palisades line came out. Then they floundered a bit. It does seem like the Muppets are trying to make a comeback, albeit in spurts. We get a few small appearances here and there. But, sadly, it is still a struggling franchise. But to miss posting anything about the Muppet Live appearances, to name one, is inexcusable.

    And another part of it is the lack of updates and active management of the site. Nothing on the main page is updated, regardless of anything happening with the Muppets. I was not aware that others have offered to help out with updating the website on a regular basis. If that is the case, then that is on Phil and he deserves the criticism. I'm not going to go so far as demand he sell the site, but he could, at the very least, turn over management of the site to an active manager then.

    And I apologize to Blake for coming off a bit strong. We are all passionate about the Muppets and MC, but I just think it is wrong to see our participation here as a right when it is in fact a privilege. We should ask for improvements and push for them. But to demand them or threaten them is rude.
  20. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    I am in no way threatening anybody to make changes. How dare you say I am.

    We are trying to get Ed and Phil to listen to us so changes can be made to make Muppet Central better. We are not demanding anything. We just want what's best for the fourm


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