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    The Muppets Episode 4 - Pig Out

    Eh...yes. Gaping flaws = nitpicking, an inability to suspend disbelief, and a huge misunderstanding of how fictional drama is (and must be) very different from real life. No, it is not. Not everyone's opinion gets its own trophy. It's called cartoon violence. And on no planet was it one...
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    The Muppets Episode 4 - Pig Out

    You guys say we disagree but the thing is you guys keep insisting we're saying things we really haven't been. Over and over we've said we appreciate the Muppets having edgy humor and over and over again we've said we know other Muppet projects had alcohol. And over and over again we've said it's...
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    The Muppets Episode 4 - Pig Out

    I'm sorry, what exactly do you guys think real romance is? Two Stepford people frolicking in the grass together? Yes, Kermit and Piggy have their quirks and personal issues. Don't we all! Doesn't mean they don't compliment each other, doesn't mean they're not meant to be together. Mocking their...
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    The Muppets SPOILER Thread

    ::shrugs:: Bunsen and Beaker have a comedy duo bromance. That's enough for me. Now, there are maybe one or two characters that I could potentially see swinging that way, hehe, but frankly I don't trust this show to do it maturely when they can barely get the frog and pig right!
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    The Muppets SPOILER Thread

    The only thing Bunsen loves are his inventions, lol.
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    The Muppets Episode 4 - Pig Out

    And btw just the other week I was predicting something very like this drunk thing and being told it wouldn't happen. ;)
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    The Muppets Episode 4 - Pig Out

    Unwanted-ly? I don't think so.
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    The Muppets Episode 4 - Pig Out

    Whoever's writing this, I don't get the impression they understand Kermit and Piggy's relationship at all. They seem to think Kermit's been a victim or something for all these years and now he's getting his chance at pay back. Which couldn't be more horrifyingly wrong.
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    The Muppets Episode 3 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

    No one said that. Again, it's a question of execution. Serious question, what other way can we make it clear that we like it when the Muppets are edgy? This is getting beyond silly. How you watched much '70s Television? The opposite is true. Key word being implied. We've been defending...
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    The Muppets Episode 3 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

    Yup, I said that earlier, and I think you might have something there. The network probably is feeling threatened by the Internet as usual and thinks it can compete somehow by copying what young people seek online. But yeah, just because I enjoy the occasional off color parody doesn't mean I want...
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    The Muppets Episode 3 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

    Again, you're not the only one defending something here. No offense, we're cool and all, but quit being the Muppet martyr. ;)
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    The Muppets Episode 3 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

    I'm a stock holder and right now I kinda hate Disney for not having a clue what to do with the Muppets, lol.
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    The Muppets Episode 3 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

    I'd say learn a thing or two from other franchises that have successfully reinvented themselves, like the Transformers franchise (Transformers, not Bayformers!). Transformers Prime is a modern show that managed to explore more mature themes while still maintaining the innocence of the original...
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    The Muppets Episode 3 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

    I addressed this earlier (no problem if you didn't see). It's a question of class. It's one thing to show Kermit and Piggy as two adults drinking wine during a romantic dinner. This new show would think it's funny to have Piggy fall off the chair drunk while Kermit makes a rude comment that's...
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    The Muppets Episode 3 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

    Sure, it's a tricky thing because it can happen. Star Trek: TNG got a lot better over time. Star Trek: Enterprise got, well, a little better, lol. As we both said, Season 1 of Muppet Show was slow going. At this point, you would think fans have sent enough feedback for the writers of this new...
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    The Muppets Episode 3 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

    Oh believe me, I'm not going to play that "you're not a real fan" game. There are plenty of Muppet Show sketches I'd fast forward through too, lol. And I'm a big fan of the projects where it was just the core group, sure. It's just that I don't find the characters particularly lovable on this...
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    The Muppets Episode 3 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

    First season clumsiness aside, the writing was very good on Muppet Show. No, there wasn't an emphasis on plot, but there didn't have to be. The Muppets are endearing insanity. No one watched the Marx Brothers for the plots either. I'm glad that my tastes were opened a bit due to Muppet Show...
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    The Muppets Episode 2 - Hostile Makeover

    Did it ever occur to you that some of us might, you know, suffer from depression and seriously don't need anyone making it worse? You need to get it through your head that you're talking about real people with real feelings.
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    Dealing with depression and anxiety

    Dreading the next couple of weeks. The one friend I'm able to consistently hang out with is going on vacation. I've put some feelers out to others about hanging out but I doubt any of them will remember. It would take them years to notice if I disappeared, period. And no, I still haven't seen a...
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    The Muppets Episode 3 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

    Caper is right. I get that the Muppet performers don't like being called voice actors, it's a different talent, I understand that. But I'm also thinking of an old clip of the Disney animators saying if you change a character's voice, it creates a different personality. And when we say voice, we...
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