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Oh you knew my controversial response was coming...
Wow, a lot of posts in the last 24 hours. See, here's why I could never be a moderator on this type of forum...I couldnt say what Im about to say...
First off...I have to agree with quite a few things Capt Crouton and Patty E have said. It is quite sad that quite a lot of Snoop's gimmick seems to be this total cavalier look at drugs, sex, and other parts of 'the game'. ('the game', of course is the slang term for living a lifestyle expressed in his lyrics)
I am also quite happy with the fact that for the most part, people arguing against Snoop actually have a knowlege of lyrical content...and can verse out what he has said. As opposed to 'well he talks about disrespecting women'.
So looking through capt croton's post especially, I found myself agreeing with quite a bit of what he said.
Sorry for the subject of religion cropping up there. Quite personally the words 'right wing conservative reliogiousness' gives me the heebie jeebies. I think of Pat Robertson, 80's evangelists, and the deep south. But Capt Croton is right...we all espouse to be tolerent...yet find outselves intollerent at the sometimes intollerent.
I think it may be due to the fact, that whenever there is something with the slightest gay-ness connected with it...a cry of 'liberalism homosexual agenda' is uttered. When there is a less than upright cameo on a percieved family program it's 'uh oh, America is going to heck in a hand basket'.
Quite a few of my deepest personal choices of lifestyle rival that
of even the so called conservative christians. I dont believe in smoking or drugs(a child of regan's 80s fer sure), promiscuity, real life violence(which includes fighting wars), etc.
But overall a basic faith we are born with is our true faith...before we are weened on whatever dogma later versed by our parents, school, church, or adoptive figures. It is a faith of love, the kind a newborn gives back to you. It is a prevision of good and love...and a general sense of aspiring to happiness...the thing we all attain. Somewhere along the line man created all these guidelines, red tape, iron fists of rules, etc. But if you have a dog or a cat...or see a quirrel in the park. They arent a Jew, or a Christian, or Hindu...they know of innocence and love. That is a fundamental core or nexus we are all born with...and it is later in life where we are culled into a particulair way of thinking that in a lot of ways poisons that original sense of wonder and love.
It's taken me years to figure this out....and probably a million more years for people to understand. The world is messed up, a lot of it fromt he male species...because they perpetuate a cycle of stupidity and hate they are too unaware to undo. Thats why we have grown up men like Bush Jr initiating wars. Thats why we have prisions filled, and greed in the business world.
If people would just take in what they learned in kindergarten and Sesame Street this would for sure be a better place to live.
Wow, a lot of posts in the last 24 hours. See, here's why I could never be a moderator on this type of forum...I couldnt say what Im about to say...
First off...I have to agree with quite a few things Capt Crouton and Patty E have said. It is quite sad that quite a lot of Snoop's gimmick seems to be this total cavalier look at drugs, sex, and other parts of 'the game'. ('the game', of course is the slang term for living a lifestyle expressed in his lyrics)
I am also quite happy with the fact that for the most part, people arguing against Snoop actually have a knowlege of lyrical content...and can verse out what he has said. As opposed to 'well he talks about disrespecting women'.
So looking through capt croton's post especially, I found myself agreeing with quite a bit of what he said.
Sorry for the subject of religion cropping up there. Quite personally the words 'right wing conservative reliogiousness' gives me the heebie jeebies. I think of Pat Robertson, 80's evangelists, and the deep south. But Capt Croton is right...we all espouse to be tolerent...yet find outselves intollerent at the sometimes intollerent.
I think it may be due to the fact, that whenever there is something with the slightest gay-ness connected with it...a cry of 'liberalism homosexual agenda' is uttered. When there is a less than upright cameo on a percieved family program it's 'uh oh, America is going to heck in a hand basket'.
Quite a few of my deepest personal choices of lifestyle rival that
of even the so called conservative christians. I dont believe in smoking or drugs(a child of regan's 80s fer sure), promiscuity, real life violence(which includes fighting wars), etc.
But overall a basic faith we are born with is our true faith...before we are weened on whatever dogma later versed by our parents, school, church, or adoptive figures. It is a faith of love, the kind a newborn gives back to you. It is a prevision of good and love...and a general sense of aspiring to happiness...the thing we all attain. Somewhere along the line man created all these guidelines, red tape, iron fists of rules, etc. But if you have a dog or a cat...or see a quirrel in the park. They arent a Jew, or a Christian, or Hindu...they know of innocence and love. That is a fundamental core or nexus we are all born with...and it is later in life where we are culled into a particulair way of thinking that in a lot of ways poisons that original sense of wonder and love.
It's taken me years to figure this out....and probably a million more years for people to understand. The world is messed up, a lot of it fromt he male species...because they perpetuate a cycle of stupidity and hate they are too unaware to undo. Thats why we have grown up men like Bush Jr initiating wars. Thats why we have prisions filled, and greed in the business world.
If people would just take in what they learned in kindergarten and Sesame Street this would for sure be a better place to live.
There's always time for Monty Python! 
