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Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by GonzoMan, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. DarthGonzo

    DarthGonzo Well-Known Member

    Hands down the smartest thing I've read in this entire thread.
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  2. Muppy

    Muppy Well-Known Member

    Haha, thanks :)
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  3. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Ugh, I don't know what to think anymore. At first, I was really sad for Steve, but then his kids come in and start bashing him. I feel like at the end of the day, Steve meant well though.
  4. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    This is like watching a divorce woth a married couple with kids. The kids being The Muppets, and they are the ones that are going to be hurt by all this.
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  5. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    The NY Times article is the last thing I intent to read. I'm done.
  6. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    A divorce case, where the Muppets sit in the back, silently, slowly rocking back and forth, while the jury (fans) unsuccessfully attempts to reach a verdict.
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  7. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    As in done do you just mean with this issue? Please dont let this drama hinder you love for the Muppets.
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  8. Muppy

    Muppy Well-Known Member

    Well if this is a court case, I want more witnesses. I call the Muppeteers to the stand.
  9. CBPuppets

    CBPuppets Well-Known Member

    to be honest at first I felt bad for Steve, because he was doing what he thought was right, but when The Henson kids said otherwise, well I'm not sure what to believe in anymore...
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  10. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Agreed. I want to hear Dave Goelz's input. He's worked with him the longest and is likely his closest companion.
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  11. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    With the issue. Muppets are too ingrained in my life to give up.
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  12. LaRanaRene

    LaRanaRene Well-Known Member

    I think Steve meant well, but he came off as disrespectful and unprofessional in voicing his opinions. His bosses probably expected him to do as they say (as TheOrangeBird said) but the interview gives me the impression that Steve wasn't used to a different business environment and he was doing what he had done under Jim, which understandably wasn't appreciated.
  13. ErinAardvark

    ErinAardvark Well-Known Member

    I'm not trying to play Steve as the victim, but seriously, if he was hard to work with, why was he kept on until now?
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  14. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    What I'm wondering is when he started to give notes about how to rewrite stuff. Surely, he had to have done it for trash like MWoO.
  15. CBPuppets

    CBPuppets Well-Known Member

    What I'm wondering that if this occurred in October of 2016 why are we hearing this now
  16. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    For The Henson's to say anything is a bit silly. They had no invovment in any of the latest productions, and sold the Muppets for cash money. If They cared so much maybe they would have been more involved.
  17. Muppy

    Muppy Well-Known Member

    The Henson's can say anything they want. They've had first hand experience and are entitled to their own opinions and whatnot.

    They're also Jim's children. I think they're allowed to say something even if their company doesn't own the Muppet characters anymore.
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  18. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Completly agree. They gave them up and that was their decision. They have no say in anything.
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  19. Schfifty

    Schfifty Well-Known Member

    Good that the Inside Edition interview let us hear Steve's voice on the problem. I appreciate hearing what he had to say.

    I want to be done thinking about this problem and let it go. Reading all the posts generated here in the last few days is enough to almost cause a headache. I feel both sorry and thankful for Steve, I'm sanguine and hopeful for Matt, and that's all I will say.

    Let's just see what the darn postponed video looks like when it's uploaded, then we can discuss Matt's Kermit.
    ConsummateVs likes this.
  20. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member


    Sorry, I couldn't resist. :D I'm going to listen to the interview now and offer my thoughts. I'm really enjoying reading the comments on this thread as I eat goldfish in my bed, though.

    (I'd post it as a pic, but I'm not getting the picture to appear in my post). :rolleyes:
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2017

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