regular figures...mega sized...what about minis?

[frogboy4]

Luke- I don't get it.

I am not sure if you realize, but you have posted more on the ask Ken thread than everyone but Ken and me (and that's quite a feat) and you are the top poster on this one.

When more Muppet product is released (TV programs, movies, specials) there will certainly be much talk about those things. A year ago we would have killed to have this sort of active communication with a Muppet product developer or someone in a high level in the Henson fold.

I also have to object to labeling Muppet Central as a forum of less maturity. That's a bunch of bunk in this frogboy's opinion. There's more than enough room for a variety of forums on the Internet and I welcome that. Your statement would smack of elitism if it weren't so silly. Come on, man. Seriously. It is also insulting to imply that anyone here is a puppet (pun intended) of Palisades. I can only speak for myself, but I love the A level product. Sure, there are some definite issues and Ken needs to hear about that in a respectful and constructive way. Some have lost their tact when critiquing and that is unwise in any situation. I have certainly given Ken an earful of suggestions in posts and emails. Believe me. And Palisades has been really cool about helping fans get the product and had give-always.

I could say that I have reservations about your posts, but I like the spark you have at times and you are certainly entitled to your position without me telling you that. But don't you think you've taken a train of thought a little too far into the absurd?

 

[Luke]

Yes, thats what i'm saying. Many, many people (especially the most regular people here) use the 'show new topics' or whatever it's called because it's the quickest way of getting to all the new stuff without having to go in and out of every single section which would be tiring if you are interested in everything. So putting all the action figure stuff into a seperate folder hasn't really solved anything - it was much better when everything went into 'Ask Ken' but people broke off and started different topics everywhere so that had to be done to at least help keep things in one place.

I imagine this forum must be very annoying for people not interested in the endless action figure posts - i wouldn't be suprised if there are those who just don't want to trawl through it all so either they can never find all the other stuff, or they just leave without posting and we lose their contributions in the other sections.

 

[Luke]

Re: Luke- I don't get it.

Originally posted by frogboy4
When more Muppet product is released (TV programs, movies, specials) there will certainly be much talk about those things. A year ago we would have killed to have this sort of active communication with a Muppet product developer or someone in a high level in the Henson fold.

Jamie, theres plenty to talk about on other stuff right now. Look back to Muppetfest last year and how much discussion there was on that even at the very early stages. Now look at it over here - two threads that have long died out besides the occasional banter which is pretty much muffin talk. They are shooting the movie in Vancouver, a pilot for the TV show is in the works - where's the hype about that ? When the Muppets appeared on that radio show there was very limited interest in it - if the Henson people looked in here to see the fans reaction on that appearance i think they'd be dissapointed. If EMTV went bankrupt tommorow (and it COULD well happen) do you think 80% of the people here could pull themselves away from the figures ? Personally i'm not so sure.

I also have to object to labeling Muppet Central as a forum of less maturity.

Toughpigs seems to have a lot of the original and older members of 'Muppet Central' thus i called them the more 'mature' fans as in agewise and also experience in the Muppet online community - i'm not making a comment on how 'grown up' anyone is. Whether it's elitist or not, go take a look over there - they seem to be handling it all much better than here.

Come on, man. Seriously. It is also insulting to imply that anyone here is a puppet (pun intended) of Palisades.

I wouldn't imply it if it wasn't so obvious. So many people change their opinion to whatever Ken's opinion is - this whole thread is one big example of it. Maybe this is because Ken provides good arguments as to what he thinks and why, persuading people, but there is a hint of everyone wanting to be Ken's buddy because he makes the cool toys.

And Palisades has been really cool about helping fans get the product and had give-always.

Jamie, it's ok - you can relax. I am not criticising Palisades - i totally agree with you. If anything, Palisades has tried to help the situation but i don't see it working.

But don't you think you've taken a train of thought a little too far into the absurd?

I'm just saying how i see it as someone who's been here a very long time and seen this forum go through lots of different things. I've heard the same stuff from other people in the online community so i don't see it as so absurd. Ken asked a question, i gave an answer as to my own opinion - simple as that. I don't really want to get into a flame war with people over this - i would never had posted my thoughts for that reason if i hadn't been specifically asked.

 

[ResidentLilly]

Never wanted to pee in anybody's cornflakes. I always thought that those people that wanted to talk about other stuff would do it in other threads regarding the subject that they wanted to talk about. No one is certainly keeping anybody from doing it. Same with TP too. Got the impression that the people on that board were into a more Palisades-Free board, so I don't really post and just read.

But you can't really fault me for the interest or the frequency of posts, and at least it has been relegated into one area. Would you and others be more comfortable if we were more centralized on a different location altogether, like a separate website, and didn't really get involved on this forum at all?

 

[Louis Kazagger]

Originally posted by ResidentLilly
But you can't really fault me for the interest or the frequency of posts, and at least it has been relegated into one area. Would you and others be more comfortable if we were more centralized on a different location altogether, like a separate website, and didn't really get involved on this forum at all?

Uh oh, sounds like the beginnings of the "daily update by Drew" on the spawn.com mcfarlane toys board. Blah. You wanna see people who kiss developer butt, head over there Luke.

To hear Luke tell it, if you pulled out Ken, the MC Forum would be a ghost town without the action figure talk.

Reminds me of the little towns across America where Walmart moves in, puts all the local shops out of business (the townsfolk don't support the little shops anymore, and only shop at Walmart). Then, ironically enough, Walmart finds the store in the town isn't profitable, and closes their doors, leaving the people nowhere to shop. WE NEED OUR WALMART!

 

[Luke]

Kenneth

No way ! That was not my reason for posting whatsoever and i personally love you posting here. In fact i'm sure the people at TP would love you to post a bit more and get involved, the toys have been a big hit there. I just think they've kept the hysteria down to a minmum which is very cool. Also nobody is faulting you on the interest or frequency - you've gone above and beyond the call of duty. In fact, i applaud you - you've stuck it out here when the actual Muppeteers couldn't ! LOL !

I was just giving my opinions as to how the site has reacted to all this, anything about people not posting elsewhere as much or the figures overshadowing other stuff is more a site problem than anything to do with you - it needs to encourage more people to post in those areas, and also make more of the news and other fun stuff it can post so that people are interested just as much as the figures. You certainly have NOT peed in anyones cornflakes.

I just think it would really help to have that FAQ up as soon as possible, and a solid rule that people get referred to the FAQ if it contains their question, and it NEEDS to be constantly updated. Also as you have already said, all questions to Ken that require an answer go in the 'Ask Ken' thread. That would pretty much solve 80% of the problems IMO i had noticed and get people into the routine not to just start threads to get your attention.

 

[frogboy4]

Luke

Why can't you just let people talk about what they choose to without you constantly criticizing it? It's one thing to add to a thread, it's another to be one of a thread's top participants and criticize everyone for talking about the topic too much when you have certainly done quite a bit of it yourself.

Your view that there has been too much figure discussion has been noted and it seems that a crusade to stop it or antagonize others contributing to it would only be futile. If you don't like a thread it's okay to say so, but you don't have to dwell on it. It's okay to move on. People will eventually come around to talking about something else. If figures are an exhausting topic, your continuous rant about the threads is the second. Geez. You can’t change what people want to talk about and if you could, what fun would that be?

 

[Louis Kazagger]

Uh-oh, those action figure folk are starting to take over the neighborhood. We'd better move before property values start to drop.

 

[Luke]

Jamie,

If you'd bothered reading, i was not saying that i wanted to stop figure talk, or that the figures are getting talked about too much. I was just saying it could all be managed and co-ordinated better. Have you never heard of forum management ? Are you not a moderator ? Maybe i'm missing something here but the two things i'm calling for are things Ken himself has also called for !

I contributed to the threads because i had something to say about that topic - i only brought this up because i was asked my opinion. I would also disagree with my continous rant about the threads being the second most exhaustive thing, i don't think i've said much about it other than the odd comment since we moved to this forum - actually a day doesn't go by without someone saying to me how you are continously the first person to disagree with them if they post something that isn't what Ken might want to hear.

 

[Louis Kazagger]

Sounds like we need a "View new posts, except for the action figure posts" link.