Sesame went down hill when Elmo came on the scene

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Just curious how Abby Cadabby has relation to Dora? Sorry, I’m not really seeing the connection.
I recall seeing the news report of her debut citing Dora as one of the inspirations for the character.
 
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The bilingual explorer gave us Abby Cadabby, which destroyed the already working dynamic duo of Elmo and Zoe.
I am still pretty sad that the Elmo/Zoe dynamic is dead, but I will say the writers have found a pretty funny and cute dynamic in Rosita and Zoe since about season 47.
 

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I am still pretty sad that the Elmo/Zoe dynamic is dead, but I will say the writers have found a pretty funny and cute dynamic in Rosita and Zoe since about season 47.
I know the reason the Elmo/Zoe dynamic slowly came to an end was because Ryan saying that he didn’t feel comfortable doing it and it’s one of those dynamics that really work with Kevin/Fran.
 

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I know the reason the Elmo/Zoe dynamic slowly came to an end was because Ryan saying that he didn’t feel comfortable doing it and it’s one of those dynamics that really work with Kevin/Fran.
That makes sense. Personally, I do think Ryan's Elmo works better with Abby than Kevin's did.
Although, I do wonder what Ryan's Elmo would be like with Jennifer's Zoe, since we haven't seen much of that.
 

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That makes sense. Personally, I do think Ryan's Elmo works better with Abby than Kevin's did.
Although, I do wonder what Ryan's Elmo would be like with Jennifer's Zoe, since we haven't seen much of that.
There was the bicycle episode that had the two together
 

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...Except the dynamic died almost instantaneously around 2006. That's 7 years before Ryan became Elmo
 

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...Except the dynamic died almost instantaneously around 2006. That's 7 years before Ryan became Elmo
Seems like you forgot the yearly episode where Elmo had to deal Rocko, Zoe's pet rock.
 

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I'm aware, but the amount of Abby and Elmo in comparison was staggering, and only involving Elmo and Zoe due to Rocko is iffy
 
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