Steve Swanson: We kinda have some fun where we talk about Matt Vogel, and he's a hugely talented performer. No joke about that, he's incredible. But he also performs so many characters, and we might have remarked once or twice that the new Kermit sounds a little sleepy, I'm just gonna say, he could use a nap. And I think we say that because Matt performs so many characters that he never gets to sleep. So we say that lovingly in the hopes that one day Matt gets the rest that he so richly deserves.
JD Hansel: He really does a lot of performing and directing, and I truly don't know how he manages to stay energetic when he's doing something like Below the Frame. And yeah, sometimes Big Bird and Kermit do seem a wee bit sleepy. Steve, you feel more strongly about that than I do. Just so we're all clear here, I'm totally fine with what Matt Vogel is doing, Steve thinks it's sleepy.
Steve: JD still wants to work for the Muppets someday, I've given up on that so I can say whatever I want.
JD: But when Steve goes in that direction, sometimes I like to play along because, the results are funny.