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Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by Phillip, Dec 17, 2008.
In MTM there is no baby Animal but there is in MFC
I couldn't see them being raised together if Fozzie's Ma doesn't know who Kermit is at the beginning of the special. I have always found that bit to be incongruent to the rest of the appoximations introduced. I just consider it all to be some sort of Christmas home movie when they all crossed paths for a moment.
I've always considered their ages to be different. My thought is that Kermit was in his late 20s/early 30s, Piggy was in her late 30s, Fozzie was in his 20s, Scooter was a teenager, Rowlf always seemed to be in his 40s or later, Bunsen would be in his 50s, Beaker might be in his early 20s and the Mayhem would range from late 30s to maybe even early 60s. There we have a range of teens to 60s. The reason why I believe the Muppets work for different generations is that all different ages are represented. Just my thoughts.
Janice is in her 20's. Thats the only thing I disagree with on the ages which makes it even more uncannon because she was a toddler on MB
Holy crap... I never thought of that!
That was the year Ma Bear spent in the slammer. Kidding, of course.
It doesnt matter because we all know that Kermit didnt meet Fozzie until they met at the El Sleezo Cafe.
I was going to let everyone here know that is if they don't already know about this web site or they've already seen this speical. But here at www.surfthechannel.com you can watch the whole thing from start to finish.
Just thought i would let the ones who live in the UK that arn't able or just missed it when it first aired then go there. It's a wonderful web site to visit.
I don't think there is a true Muppet canon, sure there are nods between the shows and films...but they never seem to quite match up.
Muppet Family Christmas implies that some of the Muppet crew got to meet each other at some point when they were babies (judging from the home movies...even though Ma Bear didn't know who Kermit was). Yet the Muppet Show and the Muppet Movie indicate that's not so.
Scooter (from what I understand, haven't seen it for myself yet) was introduced on the Muppet show as the teenage nephew of the theater's owner, and that's how he got his job. Yet, in the Muppet Movie he's the manager of the Electric Mayhem.
Gonzo meets Camilla on the Muppet Show, and begins to date her there. In the Muppet Movie they're already an item.
Right, the Muppets are more in the old school of Vaudeville and 1930s films, where you had the same types of characters, played by the same actors, but in different situations. (Playing a cop, then a robber, etc.)
Kermit tells Robin in The Muppet Movie that it is approximately how they got started. Future discrepancies aside I loosely base Muppet cannon on TMM.
Yeah I mostly do that too. It certainly fits in with GMC. But then MTM comes along and confuses everyone! Lol, it's still my favorite though.
I like to think of TMTM as a more realistic origin story for the Muppets, since the idea of a bunch of the Muppet crew being in college and trying to make it on broadway...leading up to present time when they perform in a rented out theater, made more sense to me than them randomly making it to Hollywood.
It fit better than the idea of them becoming rich and famous in Hollywood.
Well of course, but who said it had to be realistic when a frog can sing and dance ? I think if anyone could suddenly become rich in famous in the dream like way, it is the muppets !
Assuming of course that's canon. Like it was said, Kermit said TMM was an approximation. If Muppet Babies isn't canon because Piggy was making it up, how does Kermit making something up make it canon?
Emily doesn't have to remember the gang (though she did think Kermit was "the lizard"). If I met my classmates from kindergarten today I wouldn't recognize them, probably. I haven't seen them in 25 years. And besides the baby videos, let's not forget she ATTENDED an episode of TMS. She either doesn't remember because she couldn't (due to age or something) or she didn't want to.
I liked the special. It would have been great if it had more adult humor (and more characters), but it's okay. It's interesting how the Muppets were usually just hanging out in the apartment building hallway. Claire's apartment was the only one that we really saw the inside of.
And it feels great to see one of Bunsen's inventions not backfire on Beaker.
For me, the highlights were the musical numbers, Beaker using the wish machine, and Crazy Harry's quick cameo.
I thought it was pretty good. But it will hopefully be better when it comes on DVD.
John Kennedy wasen't in the cratics, so I don't think he did Floyd.
You know... After watching LTS last night and listening to My Best Christmas Yet just now on MCR... The part where Pepe talks to Claire and the arrival of Kevin the Snail are parts from the extended version. Makes me glad to have found that out.
I tend to mix it up, and think that TMM is loose cannon (A loose cannon?), but that instead of trying to get into Hollywood, they were getting into college. TMTM then follows on naturally.
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