Snoop Doggy Dog (The Degenerate)

[grail]

wow...the two best comments i've yet read on the subject...jivepuppet, you officially need to talk more, and cantus' ghost, welcome to the group! excellent points from you both!

 

[CaptCrouton]

Wait Grail,

Aren't those two "great points" mutually exclusive?

Jivepuppet says we should include everyone, erasing all the lines and rules and codes and accept whoever and whatever.

Cantus' ghost says that we shouldn't accept Laura Bush, but maybe more broadly that we shouldn't accept anyone who believes in the war effort, or capital punishment.

So what is the logical conclusion? Can a person be so open-minded that their brain falls out? Say Henson decided to bring on Pat Robertson. (Since somehow he was brought into this thread) Just for my own amusement, let's say that Robertson agreed to come on the Muppet Show and sing "There's Trouble in River City" with Sam the Eagle. Would you be open minded to that? Would you give him a chance? If not, on what grounds?

 

[frogboy4]

I think the Muppets should have whomever they want on their darn shows.

 

[Skeeter Muppet]

Originally posted by frogboy4
I think the Muppets should have whomever they want on their darn shows.

What he said.

-Kim

 

[frogboy4]

Right on, sis!

 

[Patty E.]

"The Degenerate"

The rapper and his publicist are busy exploiting all avenues of the preteen market. It's the crass commercialism of his vulgarity. He has nothing to offer and his material is junk.

In fact, his product is banned from the shelves of Wal-Mart Department stores. I stand tall, together with Rabbis, Christian leaders, parents, neighbors, and communities who questioned the reasoning behind having this rapper's infomercial inserted into the Muppet Movie.

Urban parents want positive role models for their children. This rapper's deviant lifestyle is a loser lifestyle, not a fashion statement.

Respectfully,
Patty E.
Email: pegerer@aol.com

 

[Skeeter Muppet]

Originally posted by frogboy4
Right on, sis!

*grins* Y'know, we could really run with that gag...you, me and anyone else here with Scooter in their user name/avatar...

And a note to Patty...have you been paying attention to ANYTHING we've said? Or are you just spouting off stuff without bothering to read what other people have said, especially if they don't agree with you? I'm sorry if that's not the case and if I have offended you, but that's what you are coming across as on my screen.

-Kim

 

[manoftheSTREET]

Once, I would've agreed with Patty E., but now...

I side with my fellow Muppet fans on this matter.

While not a fan of Snoop myself, I think his appearance would've been jake by any means. Why?

For that, think of these names:

-Spike Lee (provocative filmmaker)
-James Gandolfini (star of the profane mob series "The Sopranos")
-Goo Goo Dolls (members of the band have admitted to heroin addiction)

What do they all have in common?

All have delved in controversial matters, but all have appeared on "Sesame Street" as well. They didn't bring in offensiveness of any sort...they helped out matters of education while providing good entertainment for parents watching the "Street" with their kids.

For me to find this okay, but to object to Snoop's appearance (or non-appearance now), seemed slimy to me. I examined my soul, and decided "It's for everybody. Muppets don't believe in conforming...they've celebrated their uniqueness in all manners of movies, TV and music. The Muppets represent individuality...why repress it?"

So, Muppet fans, I'm on your side...retain Snoop's cameo at least for the DVD, and let limits not be put on the Muppets.

Sincerely,

John "manoftheSTREET" Kilduff

Power to the people, the lovers, the dreamers and everybody!

 

[tomahawk]

patty e. if you really think that snoop is that evil please do everone a favor and pick up a newspaper. see the thing is that we don't live in a perfect world. i mean come on even the "president" is a self-admitted coke fiend, and also has a drunk driving record. see if it were a perfect world jim henson, richard hunt, john lennon and a handful of others would still be with us and people like celine dion, yanni and micheal(i celabrate his entire catolog)bolton would be asking all of us the same question,"would you like fries with that".

 

[Jivepuppet]

I can be very opinionated, but I am open minded. Thanks to those who agreed, and even more thanks to those who don't, but read with open minds. What makes Muppet Central's forum so great is we can all stand up and say how we feel, and still all love the crazy puppets! I'm not saying let everyone guest with the Muppets. Charles Manson would be a bad idea, but Marilyn Manson, singing at the piano with Rowlf, would leave me laughing for days. I don't really care about any of these "guests" personal agendas, politics, addictions, fetishes, and so on. What I do care about is if it's funny or entertaining. None of us have seen the Snoop clip, so none of us know if it's good.
I don't know if I can say anymore about this other than if we keep our minds closed then we NEVER learn.
Jon
jivepuppet@aol.com