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Henson issues statement about Chick-Fila-A

Discussion in 'Henson People' started by dwmckim, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    There's no question that the Republicans have gone too far in their hostility towards the middle and working class. And too many people have a sort of Stockholm Syndrome where they think the Republicans are speaking for them when really they're creating half of these problems. Not that the Democrats care that much more, in my opinion.
  2. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Yeah pretty much. Our "election" does not exactly bring out the best in anyone. Perhaps because subconsciousness we know just how little power we really have.
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Both sides have problems, but we're not seeing the nasty, shadowy figures behind the curtain, EVEN when they're in plan sight. When they talk about how there used to at least be room for compromise and consensus, that's before the worst of the worst of the lobbyists started controlling favorite parties and party favorites. There's a reason why every Republican candidate that found common ground with the Democrats was edged out of their primaries with compromise hating, greedy, petulant brats that cling desperately to their corporate masters. Dickensian villains like the aforementioned Grover Norquest and the Koch Brothers. THAT'S the reason why there's so much block in congress... rich people who aren't even poor enough to be the 1%, more like the 0.00001% that use everything in their arsenal to disrupt any sense of change, then pay a fortune for Super Pac advertisements about who we didn't get the change they didn't want us to have, blaming their Machiavellian schemes on Obama, so they can get even MORE of what they want.

    I'm no proponent of physical discipline of a child, but those are three kids that SHOULD have been spanked as kids.

    So basically...

    Yeah. Now we have 4 years of Karl Rove's fear-mongering anti-working class red scare presidential campaign. I'm sure when one of their guys screws up with even massive corporate welfare that we all have to pay for, they'll play that old "The Gays are coming for you, Barbara" schtick again. Ah, Neo-Cons. Anything to make the rich richer, huh?

    I've been calling Stockholm Syndrome for years. how the heck is making the poor people paying the taxes of the rich people who DON'T want to help them speaking for the Middle Class?
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  4. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    The landscape of politics will only change when the majority actually understands the issues deeper than the daily cable news talking points. That involves reading, and from multiple sources too. I'll keep up hope, but I won't hold my breath. :rolleyes:
  5. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Good points everybody, and again I don't mean to be a downer, I guess it just comes from looking at the Internet user comments under news stories too many times. The worse examples of both "sides" tend to gravitate towards those, lol.
  6. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Re the poor situation, that's exactly why Donald Trump should NEVER be president... he has NO froggin' idea what it's like to be poor, so he wouldn't even know how to begin going about trying to help middle and lower class Americans (and I doubt he'd even want to anyway).
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  7. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Oh that was just pure nonsense to think he was in any way qualified. I can't tell if he knew this himself and just wanted the publicity (certainly possible) or really thought he had a chance.
  8. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    This Tumblr post reminded me of a lot of what Drtooth has been complaining about in regards to this "War on Christianity" idea.
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  9. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    Maybe i need to find a nice Jewish fella and settle down. ;)
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  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'd say something about Donald Trump, but I don't want him to spend eternity holding an angry grudge. I'm surprised he hasn't called Sesame Street the worst show on television because they parodied him that one time... well... two times.

    Yet there's just so much crap on him. And I don't want to have to post another Cracked article. But...

    I know... aren't I the worst? I'm like a co-worker that keeps sending you links, right.

    I can't even begin to say how awesome that was.
  11. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    People like that are just blowhards who always have to be convinced they're right.

    Ironically that is often a requirement for being a Presidential candidate. That and having the most money. Yeah our "election" is quite an amusing thing, lol.
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Which totally wouldn't be too bad... but the guy went a certain word that rhymes with schmankrupt multiple times.
  13. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    I'm tired of still hearing such misinformation about this issue being reported by the news and around the Internet. Here's the breakdown of what happened between CFA and JHC:
    • JHC partnered with CFA for another toy venture after last year's Pajanamals partnership proved successful. It is unclear if JHC was ignorant or tolerant of CFA's reputation.
    • CFA’s president publicly stated his support for Traditional Marriage and condemned Gay Marriage saying that it would invite "God’s judgement" on the nation.
    • CFA’s president, as a representative of the Cathy family and the CFA organization, enthusiastically reiterated his opposition to Gay Marriage.
    • CFA’s millions of dollars in funds for key religious organizations that lobby against gay rights were brought to light. The anti-gay causes include all forms of equal rights worldwide and not only marriage.
    • CFA’s employees and partners were put in an awkward position of choosing a side on this polarizing issue.
    • JHC severed ties with CFA claiming that the discrimination against gays didn’t fit with their core values of equal tolerance for all groups,
    • JHC issued only one statement in which they supported diversity and Gay Marriage. They donated their CFA profits to GLAAD. They did not condemn CFA or call for a boycott.
    • CFA's recall of the JHC toys surfaced. The unknown “safety” issue still has never been identified or reported to any consumer safety organization.
    • CFA has since claimed that their president’s views on Gay Marriage no longer represent the company and that they have ceased all corporate anti-gay funding.
    • JHC stands behind their statement without further comment.
    Everything outside of this has been conjecture. ;)
  14. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Given that Sam the Eagle hasn't been fired under Kermit's management, I can believe they wanted to be tolerant of conservative views until the ugliness started.
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  15. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    I think so too.
  16. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    I missed that, and, Googling around, I don't see mention of it. Do you have a link?
  17. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    Wow, I'm looking for it now and I can't find it. It was referenced in several articles I've read, but there are so many! I don't necessarily trust it, but the claim was made somewhere...
  18. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    A CFA statement said they'd “leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena" somewhere, but I'm trying to source it. It might be a while. Busy week! Can't focus all my attention on this.

    Can I just say the Chick-Fil-A has the most annoying name! Never in my life have I typed so many dashes!!:mad:
  19. Bannanasketch

    Bannanasketch Well-Known Member

    They posted it on their Facebook.

    The full statement:
    "The Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect – regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender. We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 Restaurants run by independent Owner/Operators. Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and polit
    ical arena.

    Chick-fil-A is a family-owned and family-led company serving the communities in which it operates. From the day Truett Cathy started the company, he began applying biblically-based principles to managing his business. For example, we believe that closing on Sundays, operating debt-free and devoting a percentage of our profits back to our communities are what make us a stronger company and Chick-fil-A family.

    Our mission is simple: to serve great food, provide genuine hospitality and have a positive influence on all who come in contact with Chick-fil-A."
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  20. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    Thanks! It's funny that the statement was on their site of all places and that it didn't show up in the google search!

    I'll believe that statement when I see it in action, but I still wouldn't eat there even if they became the gay-friendliest company or hired a gay spokeschicken because I'm a vegetarian that doesn't eat fast food. ;)

    No matter how one feels about Chick-fil-A, I'm still irked that people believe the Henson Company did something wrong.

    They cut ties with a company whose president made disparaging remarks against a group of Americans. I believe Henson would have done the same thing if they'd partnered with a gay-friendly organization that made negative remarks against all Christians. Free speech is a right that comes with responsibilities and consequences. We could all be more tolerant toward one another. Tolerance is not just for gays or Christians. Tolerance is for everybody!

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