Your Thoughts: It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas

[RobintheBrave]

"NOW... I think Jim is rolling over in his grave. This was a raunchy version of the Muppets with all those "inuendos." This was not the Muppets, this was Crank Yankers.
Kermit is not very Kermit - like. "Porn is fine."? Not something Kermit would say, and I was really begining to appreciate Steve too. Thoughts? Am I alone on this one?"

When did you hear Kermit say "Porn is fine"?

Yes, I agree that the inuendos were not in good taste and not very Muppety. I didn't mind seeing NBC on Kermit's foot (I thought it was kinda funny) but I don't like this idea of making the Muppets "edgier". The Muppets became famous because they use intelligent humor that adults appreciate while remaining something kids can enjoy, too. They don't need Pepe lusting after some woman's boobs. That's the sort of thing that Jim would not have approved of.

Still, I hope you saw all of it. The second half was much more Muppety and had some wonderful moments.


Robin the Brave

 

[ballington]

sex and violence

First let me just say that I am thrilled all of you are such BIG fans. I really think I may be the only Muppet fan in Jersey and the last thing I would ever want to do is really get you guys angry.

I do remember the "Sex and Violence" pilot, and there was NO sex and violence, that was the gag. I just think the Muppets have made some really bad decisions, and this lean toward strictly adult humor is one of them. Steve does a nice job, whoever is doing Scooter, Piggy, Fozzie and all the other favs are doing fine jobs, but are they doing them justice? Remember the greats? Henson, Oz, Hunt, Nelson... God, I think if Dave Goelz were to leave, practically the LAST original, I'd have a heart attack! Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe Frank Oz and Jerry Nelson aren't around anymore because they feel the same way?

PS - Sam is a BALD Eagle... what the heck is with that ridiculous mop top?

 

[ballington]

"Porn is fine" was a comment Kermit made on the Late Show with Craig Kilborne about a week or so ago, I think. It was in reference to Snoop Dog who was supposed to make an appearance on the movie, but was editied out. This is another question I have of conflicting stories. On the show, Kermit said Snoop was dropped because of his new porn line, but on the article posted here on Muppet Central, I thought it said Snoop was edited because of time.

 

[Buck-Beaver]

Re: sex and violence

Originally posted by ballington
PS - Sam is a BALD Eagle... what the heck is with that ridiculous mop top?

That was the point of the joke! Sam is a bald eagle, so he is bald but he is trying to grow more hair. I thought that was hilarious!

 

[Buck-Beaver]

I'm with Frogboy and the others who loved the movie - it was great. I know not everyone is happy with some of the directions the Muppets have gone in, but this really was a great effort and one of first movies in a while my whole family could watch together and enjoy equally in a long time.

I think that times have changed, Jim is gone and thus the Muppets must evolve while trying to stay true to their origins and I think this movie accomplished that.

And to whomever compared this movie to - - Crank Yankers, shame on you! Heresy!

 

[Skeeter Muppet]

I completely endorse Brian Henson as Scooter. He captures the wit and mannerisms of the character and has a similar voice.

Hear, hear! I sincerely hope that Brian takes Scooter on as one of his regular characters; after his (all-too-brief) appearance in MFS, then at MuppetFest and now in the Christmas Movie, it would be a shame if Scooter were put back into retirement. The same for Janice (although I found it really odd that, out of all the Mayhem, she and Animal were the only band members that were heard from. Oh well, can't win 'em all).

And the "Muppet fansite line"... I too was nearly rolling on the floor with laughter at that one, plus cheering at the same time. All I can say is, it's nice to be noticed, isn't it?

I also loved the song "Everyone Matters;" both Dave and Steve sounded excellent. I think I liked the duet between Gonzo and Kermit in that song better than the (30 second clip) group sing of it at the end. If anyone has an mp3 of that, let me know! I have plenty of other Muppet mp3s to trade! Oh, and was it just me or did anyone else notice Gilbert Gottfried in the group of human carolers while they were rolling the credits?


-Kim

 

[Natalie]

Well I really enjoyed it. There were a lot of great lines and it was good to see old characters back (despite the different voices). Yes, it wasn't rated G, but I don't think it was too much. Kermit was a bit over the top in parts of it though, too crazy. The muppet fan site line was hilarious! I loved the Moulin Rouge part and the whole end of the movie in the "It's a Wonderful Life" spoof. I do think that this brings some hope for the muppets to make a comeback. We'll just have to see.

 

[EmmyMik]

Originally posted by monkeymuppet

EmmyMik: I showed her the picture and she was unimpressed. ; (
Anything tastes better when ur looking at a picture of Bill. lol

Hmmmmmmm... Is your mom's vision up to snuff? Perhaps she needs a trip to the eye doctor. But I do agree anything and everything tastes better when you're looking at a picture of Bill...

 

[Skeeter Muppet]

Originally posted by Buck-Beaver
And to whomever compared this movie to - - Crank Yankers, shame on you! Heresy!

Seconded!


-Kim

 

[Natalie]

I didn't notice Gilbert Gottfried, but I thought I saw Susan Serandon in the line to get into the theater. I'm probably wrong though.