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TV Alert: The Muppets on "Good Luck Charlie" Season 4 premiere April 28, 2013

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by Phillip, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    same here
  2. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I love how everyone changed their attitudes :p

    Like I keep saying and said in another thread about Studio DC, if at least one person was introduced to the muppets and liked them enough to look further into it, then that's what matters. It doesn't matter if muppet fans (who I SWEAR are starting to become harder to please than the Sonic fanbase) don't like it, someone out there will and maybe even become a fan because of it.

    I think some people in their bias against disney seem to just want to focus on all the bad instead of the good that comes out of the "bad"
  3. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well like i said, I can't really explain why this rubbed me the wrong way at first. I'm sorry for my negative attitude.
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  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I refuse to watch any of this show, but I know it's an important step in keeping the characters out there. It's funny that some would act as if the Muppets were bought by another company, they wouldn't shove them into their crummy shows. And I'll take a sub-Saved By The Bell show appearance over The Bachelor any day. THAT was the appearance on a show that's well below their dignity.

    I do think the consensus is that we want the Muppets to be on their own TV show. The problem isn't that they aren't... the problem is there's no where to put it. ABC would rather shove Splash in our faces until we like it than give a chance to a Muppet TV show again.

    Let's just hope they're on better programs come next March.
  5. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I didn't change my attitude, I still think this wasn't such a great appearance, but I don't like to ramble about it.
    I like when the Muppets appear on things like 30 ROCK, and the Late-Night appearances that they do, but I've always hated Disney Channel.

    Personally, I'm the wrong person to ask. You should ask a person that does like Disney Channel if it was a good appearance and if the Muppets were funny enough.

    Going back to the TVG topic: From the picture that Sarge posted, I thought that the G was for the alternate Muppet Show that they were watching. It was actually on-screen because the show came back from commercial break, and the TVG usually stays on for about seven second or eight seconds.
  6. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I do like Disney, that's the funny thing. I've seen most episodes of most of their shows, including GLC. I still think the performance itself was rather weak for whatever reason, but the song was good enough.
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I personally never cared for Disney's sitcoms (except Even Stevens... that one was good!), and I only really hated it when every other network wanted to be them, and Hanna Montana's popularity was starting to hurt television animation (that was the reason CN forced garbage like Out of Jimmy's Head and Dude what would Happen on the viewers that actually hated them, and Nick was throwing Nicktoons under the bus right and left... with the obvious exception of Spongebob). It's not the shows themselves, mind you, it's Hollywoods "follow the leader" at its finest. Disney has since backed off and stopped shoving these tweencoms in your face to be a little more even handed. Phineas and Ferb was a turning point, Gravity Falls and the Marvel shows proved they can still get kids to watch not live action things.
  8. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

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  9. Mike Quinn

    Mike Quinn Well-Known Member

    Lol, you guys are funny :)

    To answer Dwayne1115 and Muppetlover123, yeah there was one shot where I did two chickens, just as I've been doing almost 34 years ago since Great Muppet Caper. Often it's harder when you have larger characters. Sometimes it's not too bad if you have a good position and not too many responsibilities in the shot. Strangely, I find it harder to perform only one character on my right hand (I'm left handed) than one on each. It's something to do with how the brain works I guess ;)

    The thing about shows like GLC here that you won't be aware of is that these sets are not raised. That means we have nowhere to hide and are in tougher positions for our own bodies. That becomes harder in group scenes as we become a tangled mess of limbs etc. So it's harder to get our puppets looking perfect and we tire much quicker. Having puppets move across the floor becomes a real trial.

    I personally think GLC is a harmless fun show and has some laughs in it. Everyone I know really cares about the Muppets and really wants the best for those characters and the fans. What you should understand is that everyone running things there are actually fans too, with hearts and souls (and kids sometimes).

    The more Muppets can do appearances like these, the more everyone can get into their stride.

    Oh by the way, well spotted - yes, brand new chickens for the movie, lol! Their beaks actually move much nicer than before, so that's a good thing :)

    Now, be nice to each other and try to keep positive as everyone's trying their best, lol!
  10. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    Man i really appreciate you answering questions and just preforming with the muppets even though you dont have any main characters
  11. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info! Was Steve performing Kermit with his left hand for this? It looked that way and would explain the apparent wonkiness others have mentioned.
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  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Just NO more polarizing reality show appearances. Family viewed competition shows are an exception... just... I'm going to say this one more time and let it go... The Bachelor?!?! Good Frog, what were they thinking?!? ;)

    Must've been a bit tired going back and forth from the movie shoot too.
  13. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I was starting to think that might be the case. Looking back at it, things did look a bit cramped, especially using the GLC set which is obviously not made for puppet work
  14. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Thank you for sharing your views and stories with us, Mr. Quinn.
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  15. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    Has it been mentioned that the song they performed was actually written by Adam Schlesinger from Fountains of Wayne? Yup. The same people who penned "Stacy's Mom." The song was really Muppety too. These professional touches prove how much Disney really cares about the Muppets. No half-baked hacky songwriting for them. They get quality! :cool: I hope the Muppets make more appearances like this to help bring more audience members to the new movie. My only gripe is the absence of Gonzo. And Scooter. And Rowlf. And Pepe. And Janice. And...well, I'm a fan. What do you expect!!?? ;)
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  16. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I think as a fan we take things like that for granted,and don't think about it. I think in the back of my mind that every set is built for the Muppets in mind. Now that I think about it however that would be kind of crazy. It kind of reminds me of what Brian Henson once said that every shot with Muppets in them csn be a challenge becuase they are all a special effect shot.

    I also agree with you Mike that the more shows like this the Muppets do is great, and would only boost there chances of maybe one day getting there own show. What kind of bothers me though, is that there are a lot of professional actors/writers/directors that do not work with the Muppets on the everyday, and they think they can write a Muppet script. Now a show like GLC is ok because even if the Muppets where slightly out of what they would normally say or do they still stay true to themselves.

    Looking back I think what bothered me the most was the fact that it was a dream, and that it took some of the realness of the Muppets away. I recall in the book Street Gang how there was a huge debate about where the Muppets would be in the show. The original idea was that they would live and play in there own separate world, but Jim Henson fought to make it seem liked they really lived on the street. Which in return made them seem more "real". Looking back at it now though I understand why this was a dream and it makes sense, and dose not take away the "realness" of the Muppets.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I wonder how much of this was based on availability. You look at the Cosby Show episode with the Muppets, and the only famous character is Gonzo because they were filming the Disney World thing.
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  18. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, he also writes for Sesame Street, making "I Wonder" and the "Elmo the Musical" theme, which are both at high ranks on my list.
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  19. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    The only issue I have is that the song seemed like it was a bit high for Steve, other then that it seemed like a good and very upbeat muppety song.
  20. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Having the Muppets actually appear as themselves wouldn't take away the realness of themselves; it takes away the realness of the actual sitcom. Read this page at Muppet Wiki: http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Appearances_in_outside_fictional_universes

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