Yeah, that's a great story, MBM1 I hope you have a fun time! He was well known in the puppet community at the time, and in the Puppet papers or something like that at the time, is said that he was highly sought after by Jim Henson at the time, too. But Richard mentored him and Marty and David Rudman around the time. I know it his book that he shared some of the same interest in Puppets as Jim. "Like Koko, Fran and Allie" which they both use to watch when they we're younger even though Jim is much older of course. But Kevin said in in interview that the transition from Sesame street From The Captain Kangaroo show and the Great Space Coaster wasn't very difficult because he was doing the same stuff and type of puppetry as they were doing On Sesame Street, only with a bigger budget. I think it was the Carol Rove show one. But the type and style of puppetry that Jim does is very specific which separates it from other kinds. It really pushes the limits of making you believe in the characters.