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Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by GonzoMan, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. Muppetboy09

    Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    Switching gears for a second, I was reading through some comments on Steve's blog, and saw someone say that
    Also interesting to note, they cited Production Assistants as their source.
    Mike Quinn quickly popped in to correct that statement:
    Sounds like it's his word against Mike's. Guess we won't know for sure until the Hollywood Bowl
  2. LaRanaRene

    LaRanaRene Well-Known Member

    Yeah, Matt's Kermit is more nasal than Jim. I thought it sounded a bit like a deeper Artie Esposito.
  3. gavry3

    gavry3 Well-Known Member

    Psshht! You're just comparing voices.
    BobbyBenson64 likes this.
  4. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    Not entirely.
  5. xSunnyEclipse

    xSunnyEclipse Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I'd still have the same opinion as I do now if Steve wouldn't have gotten fired.

    And my opinion is still eh but I'm proud of Matt.
    JimAndFrank likes this.

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    Neither Is The Simpsons a Family or Kids show, The Simpsons Is an Adult Sitcom but Kids Watch It. The Original Muppets weren't supposed to be for kids either It was supposed to be for Adults. That's what Jim originally Envisioned.
  7. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    The Simpsons is a step above the sick humor of South Park and Family Guy. The Muppets are way above it all.

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    My first thought Is Kermit on the Muppet Show voiced by Jim, has shades of that In It. So there Is some hope here! It will take time for Matt to master the voice before a big Muppet production like a TV show or Movie hopefully that Is In the works by the way?

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    The Simpsons are a show In the Vein of The Honeymooners or the Flintstones but Definitely intended for Adults bottom line no reason a white dude cant voice a black dude weather its for kids or adults what does it matter? In the end Its Voice Acting and Puppeteering. If you are good at both voice acting and puppeteering what does it matter what race or gender you are.
    Do we all forget this was the Muppets,
  10. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    I saw that when it first came out. The title makes it sound more adult than it actually is, but yes, the Muppets do cross age barriers, but that does NOT put them in the same class with South Park or Family Guy.
    pjtoadie likes this.
  11. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    It can be done without disrespect. That is certain. Still, if you study the history of Minstrel Shows and the Amos and Andy radio program, you might understand why some are just a little uncomfortable with the idea.
  12. RowlfFan12

    RowlfFan12 Active Member

    To me, it sounds like a combination of Constantine (at first, not all the way through), Steve (only in the slightest, please don't hurt me), and of course Jim. It will take some getting used to for me, but it was the exact same way for me when I heard Matt perform Big Bird for the first time, and then Ryan perform Elmo for the first time.
    BobbyBenson64 likes this.

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    Amos And Andy your talking about a show from the 50's that was racist you cant compare a show from the 1950's to a show or movie in 2017 lets be honest here a lot has changed in our country even If Trump Is trying to take us back 1,000 steps backward In time. Sorry for bringing politics into it.
    BobbyBenson64 likes this.

    DARTH MUPPET Well-Known Member

    Not saying Its In a Family Guy or South Park Level but anywhere from Adult To Family but not Kids programing Simpsons In the classic era or Futurama maybe...
    BobbyBenson64 likes this.
  15. Muppetboy09

    Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    Alright, I've been hesitant to bring this up. First off, let me make this clear: I am not Team Steve or Team Disney. I am Team Muppets.


    Now, there has been someone very active on both Steve's blog and on twitter, going by the names @FleeceThroat and Steve Fawner. He has been claiming to have a lot of inside info, even going as far as to release and email from Steve back from 2005.

    One of the most interesting stories he told on his twitter account was about a so called "Mafia Dinner" that happened with Steve and three other performers. You can read up about it more over the course of about 20 tweets. Based on the information they sprinkled throughout, it seems two of the performers present were most likely David Rudman, and John Tartaglia. (Tartaglia I am certain, and all the hints for Rudman line up).

    Also, as support to this so called "blacklist" of performers, the twitter account says the truth will be revealed when all these performers return at the Hollywood Bowl for the first time in years.

    This isn't meant to start some heated argument between members, it is simply meant to shed light on a situation unfolding on the blog that some people might not know about.
  16. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    This guy has some kind of personal issue with Steve. I personally think he is full of crap. He won't tell us who he really is, and where his sources are coming from. He is simply one of the many trolls Steve has on his blog. Some of those trolls are even here on the forum.
  17. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Yeah. We got to watch for those here Ever since I went to the Taco Bell Corporate office forum to complain about them cursing in their 'endless apps' commercial, I've had to deal with a dirty troll posting rude/nasty comments, so it's not impossible we have people like that on these forums as well. (Who knows? It could even be the same person posting here.) We'll have to keep the mods alert when these things happen.
    cahuenga likes this.
  18. ErinAardvark

    ErinAardvark Well-Known Member

    In all honesty, I don't believe a word of what some of these people are saying, because when asked for proof, they do not provide it.
    Yorick and cahuenga like this.
  19. gavry3

    gavry3 Well-Known Member

    Oh, no? Tell me what out of a 14 second clip makes you believe that Jim's Kermit is going to come back?
  20. gavry3

    gavry3 Well-Known Member

    So @FleeceThroat posted this on his Twitter a while ago...

    It's funny cause it's true.

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