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Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by GonzoMan, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. mbmfrog

    mbmfrog Well-Known Member

    You would think there would be a small clause in the deal stating that the family of Henson would approve such changes given that it is Jim Henson's legacy, right ?
     
  2. JimAndFrank

    JimAndFrank Well-Known Member

    I knew it. Deep down I knew something was seriously wrong.

    "I just want you all to know that I am sorry if I have disappointed any of you at any point throughout our journey, and to let everyone know that I am devastated to have failed in my duty to my hero."

    Steve does not deserve to feel this away. He has come too froggin' far, worked to froggin hard and poured his froggin heart into everything he did for The Muppets. This statement, more than anything, makes me infuriated.

    What is done is done, and I doubt Disney will reverse their decision, but I hope they realise the consequences of what they done. I, for one, have lost my faith in The Muppets Studio. They don't want what is best for The Muppets.

    And in case any of you are doubting the legitimacy of Steve's blog, Kirk Thatcher has confirmed it is indeed Steve.
     
  3. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    The Muppets Studio DOES want what's best for the Muppets, no matter what! You and others are only saying such irrational things out of mere knee jerk reactions and not knowing the whole story. :mad:
     
  4. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    The Muppets Studios might, but Disney clearly dose not!
     
  5. TwoHeadedLlama

    TwoHeadedLlama Well-Known Member

    Guess this means all of steve's original characters are gone as well.
     
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  6. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    Yeah good bye Lips and Rizzo.
     
  7. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

  8. JimAndFrank

    JimAndFrank Well-Known Member

    I'm not going to apologise for feeling this way. They had a perfectly healthy, talented, enthusiastic puppeteer with a fountain of Muppet knowledge at his disposal and they kicked him out the door. They didn't even have the common decency to set up a proper meeting to see if they could resolve any issues they had.
     
  9. DarthGonzo

    DarthGonzo Well-Known Member

    Man, what is your deal, dude?

    What this feels like is Disney wanting an even tighter control over the Muppet characters than they already have. And perhaps it's easier to do that when the staff of Muppeteers you're employing don't have the clout a 27 year Kermit performer and 40 year Muppet veteran like Steve does.

    As Kermit, Steve Whitmere has been THE face of the Muppets for almost three decades. Couldn't it be possible that Disney doesn't WANT him to have that much power and instead maybe they want someone performing the character who they can excerise a lot more control over?

    Who knows...
     
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  10. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Disney DOES!

    If you'd read those Reddit threads, you might comprehend everything a lot better. :rolleyes:
     
  11. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    C'mon guys, I'm sure someone else will perform them. I know they're more minor characters, but I don't think they're being retired. Well, at least not Rizzo. Not too sure about Lips, because he really isn't seen too much.
     
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  12. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Again, nobody knows the whole story, but you shouldn't make such false accusations either.
     
  13. DarthGonzo

    DarthGonzo Well-Known Member

    Lips barely talks. ANYONE could perform him.
     
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  14. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    Exactly.
     
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  15. DarthGonzo

    DarthGonzo Well-Known Member

    Meanwhile, Statler and Beaker have been recast before and will be recast again. And I'm sure recasting such "minor" characters as the Newman and Link isn't a priority for Disney.

    Rizzo is really the only character to be truly concerned about.
     
  16. Space Muppet

    Space Muppet Active Member

    Steve Whitmire has a website called 'Muppet Pundit,' he recently posted about what happened.
     
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  17. JimAndFrank

    JimAndFrank Well-Known Member

    Mike Quinn says he'd like to see Rizzo retired and I must say I agree. I can only see Rizzo becoming flanderized in the hands of another. Unlike Kermit, Rizzo hasn't had enough time to develop to the point that someone else could add to his character and still be recognisably Rizzo.
     
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  18. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    Can you post a link?
     
  19. LaRanaRene

    LaRanaRene Well-Known Member

    As much as I'd hate to say it, I agree. I can't see anyone else performing Rizzo with the character remaining.
     
  20. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I have and I do understand! Steve was trying to protect the Muppets! As far as I'm concerned he could have held them at gun point and that would be ok with me.
     
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