Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

[BlakeConor14]

When Did I say they shouldn't say anythong or get involved with it. I didn't I said they shouldn't have been a huge part of the whole issue

And Disney have had these characters for 13 years. The Henson children had them for 12 years (1990-2001 and bought them back in late 2003 to sell them again In early 2004 so maybe 13 years) in that time I'm sure Dave golez and Jerry Nelson and Steve who actually worked with Jim from as early as the 60s know the integrity of the characters more than them
Oh and @DarthGonzo its not black and white to me. It's called an opinion

I love how black and white this all is to some people.

"They haven't had anything to do with the characters in years so they shouldn't say anything or get involved!"

What is this? A cartoon? That's not how life works.

It's not all about commercialism and money. They grew up with their father as he developed Kermit The Frog and other Muppets. I'd say that gives them a little more insight on what Jim intended for the integrity of the characters than most others.

 

[Greenhoodie]

When Did I say they shouldn't say anythong or get involved with it. I didn't I said they shouldn't have been a huge part of the whole issue

And Disney have had these characters for 13 years. The Henson children had them for 12 years (1990-2001 and bought them back in late 2003 to sell them again In early 2004 so maybe 13 years) in that time I'm sure Dave golez and Jerry Nelson and Steve who actually worked with Jim from as early as the 60s know the integrity of the characters more than them
Oh and @DarthGonzo its not black and white to me. It's called an opinion

The kids are still the custodian's of their father's legacy, which is why, like Jim, they chose to sell to Disney, the long term home of their fathers characters and legacy. Disney didn't have to consult or include them in the recasting process at all, but they did out of respect. They were the owners. It's Kermit. The closest character to their dad. They know him. They know Kermit. Steve knows Steve's Kermit. While yes, it should matter what the puppeteers think, they don't own the characters. It doesn't matter how long anybody owned them. Only who owns them now. Who owns them now fired Steve Whitmire.

 

[Old Thunder]

I love how black and white this all is to some people.

"They haven't had anything to do with the characters in years so they shouldn't say anything or get involved!"

What is this? A cartoon? That's not how life works.

On the other hand, when you and others are telling us to just move on, that means you're also stifling our opinions just as much as others want to stifle the Henson families.

 

[gravy]

Right, but most importantly we should never forget where characters came from and their roots; The Jim Henson Company. They HAVE to get say in this.

 

[Old Thunder]

Right, but most importantly we should never forget where characters came from and their roots; The Jim Henson Company. They HAVE to get say in this.

Agreed.

 

[MrBloogarFoobly]

And here's some more tidbits. Brian Henson has a puppeteer blacklist. I'm not sure if Whitmire had one, but Brian's the one who is notorious for destroying people's careers. Sorry to burst your hero worship bubble. But this is commonly known in the puppeteering community.

 

[Censored]

And here's some more tidbits. Brian Henson has a puppeteer blacklist. I'm not sure if Whitmire had one, but Brian's the one who is notorious for destroying people's careers. Sorry to burst your hero worship bubble. But this is commonly known in the puppeteering community.

Please provide the link that documents this. Thanks.

 

[MrBloogarFoobly]

Please provide the link that documents this. Thanks.

Sorry, I can't, this comes from particular Muppeteers who work on Sesame. You can believe it or not, I don't really care. But you're quick to believe Whitmire possesses a similar list despite having no real evidence other than here-say.

 

[Censored]

Sorry, I can't, this comes from particular Muppeteers who work on Sesame. You can believe it or not, I don't really care. But you're quick to believe Whitmire possesses a similar list despite having no real evidence other than here-say.

A statement like that means nothing unless you have a resource to back it up.

 

[Censored]

Sorry, I can't, this comes from particular Muppeteers who work on Sesame. You can believe it or not, I don't really care. But you're quick to believe Whitmire possesses a similar list despite having no real evidence other than here-say.

When did I say anything about Steve's blacklist?