BEAR said:Also, did you ever notice how Jim Henson was the only Muppeteer not to have a monster character. Everyone else did.
Carroll Spinney: Oscar
jeffkjoe said:Do you guys usually associate Oscar as a monster? I know he was in the original "C is for Cookie" chorus, but I always thought it was b/c they were short on enough furry characters to fill the background and wasn't really a monster?
I believe that grouch is a sub-species of monster.jeffkjoe said:Do you guys usually associate Oscar as a monster? I know he was in the original "C is for Cookie" chorus, but I always thought it was b/c they were short on enough furry characters to fill the background and wasn't really a monster?
minor muppetz said:Actually, Jim henson often performed harvey Monster, the dark blue monster with black eyebrows, big orange (I coudl be wrong about the color) nose, and yellow horns, seen in the songs "We're all monsters", "fur", and "ABC Disco" (where he was performed by Richard Hunt). he also appeared in the Monsterpiece Theatre segment "Me, Claudius".
Richard Hunt also had a few monster characters, but his most major monster character, Two-headed Monster, was shared with Jerry Nelson. His other regular monster characters, Leo and Aristotle, didn't last very long (I think they both only lasted one year each), and of course we all know how he didn't like to perform Elmo.
Yeah, though Oscar's furry and a bit similar to other SS monsters, I think it's pretty clear that he's just a "Grouch." As for Jim not having a monster character to perform. I doubt that. Sure, he didn't perform any regular commonly known monsters, but I'm sure he performed some extra monsters in the background if not on "Sesame Street" at least on "The Muppet Show." That is a good observation, though.BEAR said:I actually do associate him as a monster. Yes, he is a Grouch and that is the "species" he belongs to, but to me he is a monster character. He looks just like the other Monsters, just with a gloomy expression.
Thijs said:I believe that grouch is a sub-species of monster.