Are kermit and miss piggy married?

[Daffyfan4ever]

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yes they are lok at the picture here

That's interesting, but what does it have to do with whether or not Kermit and Miss Piggy are married?

 

[CousinLuke]

probly all that proves is that he is selling something on E-Bay that hasn't been bid on enough to make the price what he wants.


I must say. I did not think I would see this thread again.

 

[Drtooth]

Doncha jes hate those "re's" that pop up?

Originally posted by beaker
Nope...that was just a movie. When Kermit is interviewed, and is asked that question, he hints at a romance they had in real life. But they are professionally just friends now. You are referring to their 'onscreen' romance. What happens on Muppet tv/film is a different canon from when you see the Muppets in real life(tv talk shows, live appearences, etc)

Like the difference between Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan being 'involved' on screen, and then in real life.

None of the Muppet Movies actually follow a continuity, (i.e. Scooter being the band's manager)

And come to think of it, they couldn't

I mean, if in TMM, they became big stars in Hollywood, why would they need to go to college and become Broadway stars in MTM?

It's like going from being the President to being a governer.

SO Kermit and Piggy arrre NOT technically married, like Gonzo is technically not an alien!

 

[WiGgY]

This is tricky when you think about all the muppet movies.

In TMM the theater scenes were what I would call real.

The scene where Kermit gives Dr. Teeth the script can't be real so that was scripted.

Kermit in the swamp was real in that it happened but was not real in the movie. The movie was a re-enactment of what was real.

TGMC is tougher. It was a good mix between story and real. Kermit and Piggy's fight, though, is obviously real. When Piggy yells, "You're voice was dubbed!" She must have been angry for real also. The scene with Columbo was also real and done well. It was as if some guy just walked onto the set.

MTM is not real at all I think. I can't think of any part that was real EXCEPT for the wedding scene at the alter. When Piggy got a real minister it was not MTM Piggy but the real life Piggy. Real life Kermit said that Gonzo was suppose to play the minister. So I think that the marriage was scene was not part of the movie, per se, it was more like a practical joke on Kermit.

I hope any of that made any sense at all.

 

[Chilly Down]

Wait a minute. So Gonzo ISN'T a famous British author?

Of course, this isn't something to be worried about too much. The original Warner Bros. animators re-told Bugs' childhood and his launch into stardom multiple times, as best suited them to tell a funny story. So this kind of thing is common practice. Having said that, attempting to make sense of the continuity is all part of the fun we have here. So on with it.

First, regarding TMM. It's unthinkalbe not to consider TMM as much part of the canon as the backstage scenes at TMS. Yet TMM must be taken with a grain of salt, as some of the "history" doesn't quite line up with TMS (i.e. Scooter, etc.). It's like Kermit said: it's *approximately* how it happened. I think it's closer to the truth than any of the other movies.

In GMC, they announce right at the beginning that they're making a movie, so I've always considered it just that and nothing more (except of course for the "ad-lib").

TMTM is tricker because they are, in fact, entertainers, and they're using their own names. But good luck figuring out how that fits into the rest of Muppet history.

As for the wedding: yes, the joke was supposed to be that Gonzo was supposed to play the minister, but Piggy got a real minister instead. Thus, the debate has been fueled for years. In the seminal 1984 special "Henson's Place" (track down a copy if you haven't seen it already), Piggy tells the interviewer that they are in fact married, while Kermit insists, "It's all just a movie. We don't talk about these things." That's the closest thing we have to a definitive answer on the subject. I always took it that Kermit was telling the truth and Piggy was stretching it (look at similar instances in TMS). But since Kermit has always been reluctant to face his feelings about Piggy, especially in front of others, there is just enough of a margin of error to leave this open to debate.

Regarding the Muppet Babies: one would think they're part of the "alternate history" of the TMTM world. But in that world, Miss Piggy was merely dreaming. So then what was the 8 years of the animated series? Was Miss Piggy dreaming all that time? And what do we make of the live footage of the Babies in Muppet Family Christmas? To me, that special (one of the best things the Muppets ever did) is totally canon. So don't ask me to figure it out.

Christmas Carol and Treasure Island are both based on classic stories, and in both of them the characters actually change their names, so we can happily say they're playing parts in both (though Rizzo is just along "for the food" in MCC and so is pretty much himself).

MFS is the closest thing we have to canon in a Muppet film since TMM. However, the whole "Renfro" thing was obviously made up, so we have to take that with a grain of salt too.

Kermit's Swamp Years follows the continuity of TMM, so it can be pretty much assumed to be a mostly accurate prequel. Very Merry Muppet Christmas also followed the TMM continuity (i.e. the Doc Hopper reference) so, again, I would definitely consider it canon.

The backstage scenes of Jim Henson Hour and Muppets Tonight are also both canon.

Ironically, what I WOULDN'T consider canon are the talk show appearances. (No offense, Cory!) These are not well planned-out in advance or discussed in great detail with the writers, i.e. "Where are we taking the characters now?" Even if they have some idea what they're going to say, things can happen unexpectedly and the performers have to go with it, like the uproarious Today Show appearance in June '01 when Gonzo's eyelid got stuck in the "up" position and Dave had him saying all kinds of demented things as a result. Similarly, I wouldn't consider Kermit's "Porn's fine" comment as canon. I consider that as Steve getting flustered when talking about Snoop getting edited out of Very Merry and making a joke that he was probably embarrased about later. I'd consider TMM canon over that any day.

So those are my thoughts on it anyway. So just remember, Miss Piggy grew up in a nursery with Nanny, while Kermit grew up in a swamp, while Fozzie was a cub reporter, and Gonzo was a British author--from space.

 

[beaker]

Yeah, youre pretty right about that Kilborn appearence. Im sorry, I didnt mean canon. I meant stuff like Muppetfest, MT/MFS/KSY outtakes, talk shows, etc an dother unscriped stuff is the real deal...while TMS is canon...and then stuff like MTI/MCC and Muppet Babies isnt even close to canon.

 

[Thijs]

Well, the only thing I have to say about this, is that I find Kermit most annoying when he is in love with Miss Piggy.

 

[Daffyfan4ever]

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Well, the only thing I have to say about this, is that I find Kermit most annoying when he is in love with Miss Piggy.

I don't know about that. Last night, I was listening to this "Under the Boardwalk" song on Muppet Central Radio and I really enjoyed Kermit and Miss Piggy's rendition of that.

 

[CousinLuke]

My only question about KSY is what about Kermits amazing returning tounge? In TMM, Kermit had lost his tounge, however, in the begining of KSY (were it is older Kermit), Kermits tounge has magically returned. I do not think he had it fixed because he never uses his tounge besides KSY.

 

[WiGgY]

Maybe he was luckly that one time. Sometimes atheletes who have lost it can get it back for a short time. Just like Bruce Wayne in Batman Beyond. He is really old and lost it but he could kick the Jokers' butts for a short time.