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No, I am not. As much as I understand, it IS pessimism and I’m just expressing annoyance towards it.

You should still believe all that anyway.

It’s wrong to jump to conclusions. Man, the pessimism of Muppet fans these days is SICKENING and goes against the Muppet/Henson way! :rolleyes:

Well, considering that The Muppets Studio is part of Disney Consumer Products & Interactive Media, it falls under the “Disney” banner, as it is not an independent division like Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, Fox, etc. Also keep in mind that they only announced the first crop of content for just the...

I doubt they'll let them go out edited.

Perhaps Disney+ is really gonna shape up to be a place where the Muppets can truly flourish and become popular and profitable again as well as having more of the creative freedoms they need without movie or network executives to bow down to.

A slightly-related newsworthy tidbit from a just-released D23 news update announcing more of the new original non-fiction shows in the works for Disney+...

That’s why we all need to hope that any and all upcoming Muppets projects will make enough money so The Muppets Studio can be able to separate itself from Disney Consumer Products and become independent with the ability to sustain itself. And all the fickle fanboys and fangirls out there need...

Talk about being wrong and pessimistic... :rolleyes:

Not if or when they finally get to break away from the merch division. All the more reason to hope the Muppets will eventually leave the merch divisions behind so they c Disagree. Bad and short-sighted ideas all around.

If The Muppets Studio were to break away from the Consumer Products division and become independent, things like that would be much more likely to happen.

Disney doesn’t always strong arm their creatives. Other than that, very strong points.

You’re all still wrong and contradicting everything, though.

The Muppets Studio could be more likely to greenlight such projects if they became an independent subsidiary not at the mercy of Consumer Products. Let's hope that breaking away from Consumer Products and becoming independent is part of The Muppets Studio's long-term business plans.

There's also the fact that The Muppets Studio is currently part of Disney's Consumer Products & Interactive Media division and not an independent studio like Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, etc. So it seems that another thing that would make a huge difference is if The Muppets Studio were to break...

Actually, Frank has said positive things about Most Wanted. You're still mixing up your history, Dwayne, and so is Jim Lewis. Oz and Lewis submitted their "Cheapest" script in 2009 which was rejected in favor of Jason Segel's 2011 movie script, which was what Frank has said negative things...

Not always. He's not always right. Nobody is infallible, including him. No, but his attitude needs improvement. That's what I was saying. :rolleyes:

I was mostly referring to the writers, directors, producers, etc. involved in those projects.

If only Frank would go about it all in a more constructive and professional manner and not go about insulting everything the Muppets have done since he stepped down and the people who worked on them.

I wonder if Debbie McClellan ever thought of asking him herself. Frank has a high opinion of her anyway. Debbie is the boss of The Muppets Studio and has that kind of power, after all.