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Yeah, I think you and Dwayne are on the same page with your line of thinking about Henson never wanting the Muppets to be aimed at kids from the get go. I think people often consider "Sesame Street" and "The Muppets" in the same light, but the target audience is different. Seems as if people...

Sort of looks like a "Scooby Doo" episode. "Okay, gang. Now let's see who this mutant rabbit really is!"

Yeah. That's kind of how I feel about swearing. That's why I stopped watching Top Model this season, because in about every episode they focus on dirty phrases like 'bad ***' or 'pi**ed off' which they keep repeating over and over again. Heck, I didn't like Penn Jillete's constant use of the...

It's okay, Dwayne. We see what you're saying. It's true that was never Jim's intention of making the Muppets for kids, but it doesn't change the fact that kids and adults both love the Muppets, so that's basically the point of this discussion, it's okay to use adult humor. But it's good to...

Exactly. That was my point in my earlier post about "Three's Company." Come and knock on my door anytime. :) Hokey smoke! I almost forgot about that one. Wasn't that why MT! didn't work out? Because they tried the same formula, but they just didn't seem to cut it. Though that could...

Well, the good news about that is whenever Carroll does decide to retire, BB and Oscar having different puppeteers might allow them more interaction. Though there have been quite a few memorable moments where Carroll would do double duty as both of them in a scene, most famously on "Christmas...

Yeah, that's why I prefer to hang out with friends who are Christian and have the same moral values that I do.

Yeah. I've taken a lot of heat about that from my family, from my dorm mates when I was in college, etc. Overall, it's the same deal about watching early "Sesame Street" things online. Like I said, some people think it's immature. But it's just part of nostalgia. It's the same thing about...

I agree with that completely, for a time my dad had issues when I would watch or do anything Sesame Street or Muppet related. Heck, even recently my mom has complained about me watching SS stuff on You Tube (from the show's early years, I mean). Parents don't seem to understand that this is...

Yeah, where are those good old-fashioned values on which we used to rely? Exactly. People have criticized me for not liking swearing and things like that, but it's good that some people here are sort of in agreement with me on this. There are shows out there with adult humor, but they keep...

I really miss the days when you couldn't swear on TV. Heck, that's why I'm not watching "Top Model" tonight. The language on that one has gotten worse and worse throughout the years or even on TV in general. I still don't think there was any excuse to open the Macy's parade with the "He** of...

Plus, ABC dropped his use of that word when they aired the movie. Hard to believe this is the same network that left the word intact. Lol.

Yeah. That's pretty much what Sam the Eagle said. Though the Muppets did sing "It's Hard to be Humble" and the word was used in that song.

I disagree with that. I thought Kermit did well about standing up to Piggy about that. I mean, sure he went to apologize a few minutes later. But still, he didn't just stand there and take it. You have got a point though, some times Steve's Kermit is a bit more mellow than Jim's. But it...

I don't know. I thought that was a good moment between Kermit and Miss Piggy towards the end with them agreeing to be honest with each other. Then Piggy turning around and insulting Denise. Lol. That's classic Miss Piggy.

Yeah. See what I mean? It can kind of go either way. But I understand Muppetspot comment about him training new performers which is mainly why Matt's been Big Bird's understudy ever since about season 30 and the fact that we heard Eric as :grouchy: in "Sunny Side Up" recently. Seems like if...

Well, that's good to know. Since we're losing so many puppeteers and cast members, it's good to know that he's still making a commitment with the show. I'm kind of wondering about Carroll though, since I've seen in some sources that he doesn't plan on retiring anytime soon and some sources...

Thanks again, Phil. I'll check those out before I go to work today.

Thanks, Phil. You're a life saver. Now all I need is the Jimmy Kimmel appearance and I'm all set. Lol.

Personally, I'm hoping Kermit and Miss Piggy do get back together. I'm starting to think it's not so good to see them hate each other now. They have had a lot of nice moments over the years. Anyway, and I know I'm probably getting annoying by always asking this, but if anyone has a video clip...