The Bible and Love and Christians

beaker

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Well this is more than a little disturbing. Talk about cliques and bullying. Don't think I'll be flying Delta Air...ever again!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/23/us-jews-not-able-to-fly-o_n_883568.html?ncid=webmail1

And history repeats itself. And we just sit back and let it happen.

Compromises aren't going to help you this time, Obama...

Not to leave the other political party out...

Delta is doing this for the money, period. Capitalism at its best, something the Republicans know very well...

There is no lesser of two evils.
Man that is messed up!

Well Saudi Arabia is the one who financed, sheltered and helped the 19 september 11th hijackers ram planes into America,
( http://dir.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/08/graham/index.html )
as well as treats women as 5th class citizens.All of the people the hijackers in 2000-2001 in America interfaced with were Saudi government/intelligence operatives, all their money came from Saudi officials like Prince Bandar, their red flagged visas were switched with illicit visas by the Jeddah consulate and Saudi officials regularly met with the hijackers. Yet, America has done 60 billion in oil and defense deals with Saudi Arabia this decade alone. Go figure.

In the middle east from Afghanistan to elsewhere, you can get killed by law just for converting to Christianity.
 

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I'm sorry... but that's just not true. The lesser of two evils is slightly better. Quantum singularity better at least.

If nothing else, Obama isn't blaming the wildfires in Arizona on Mexicans like the other guy who was going to be our president. And at least he's not busting unions the way the tea party sucker candidates have been.

If nothing else, there's definitely a greater of two evils.
Thats true. Ok I'll agree with Dr Tooth...Obama's rhetoric tries to be inclusive and he does take a lot of crap from the GOP/tea party. Bush instituted DOMA, Obama has sought to go out of his way to help the plight of gays. And when Obama tried to get billions appropriated for domestic rebuilding, he was called a socialist commie spreading the wealth.

I just fear America is being led into a WW3 trap is all, and i am saddened at all the wasted billions and lives lost in war when America needs that money.

But I definitely agree with a lot of Drtooth's points. Obama gets crap no matter what he does
 

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Wait, Ralph Nader tried to defund Sesame Street? I thought that was just the Republicans doing that? According to this, all he did was criticize the corporate sponsorship in the show: http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Ralph_Nader

I mean the Bush administration used the Sesame theme song to torture Iraqi prisoners, thats how crazy the Republicans are.
 

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Wait, Ralph Nader tried to defund Sesame Street? I thought that was just the Republicans doing that? According to this, all he did was criticize the corporate sponsorship in the show: http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Ralph_Nader

I mean the Bush administration used the Sesame theme song to torture Iraqi prisoners, thats how crazy the Republicans are.
That's not what was said. Nader did not try to "defund" Sesame, but he did attack Sesame directly instead of attacking congress. He should have just attacked the Republicans. Sesame got the brunt of his rhetoric. He's an extremist who confuses who gets otherwise legitimate causes dismissed because of his lunacy and ego. This happens to leaders when their heads swell too big. Nobody gains any credibility with me by dropping his name into a conversation.
 

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Ok, I guess I didnt know too much about Nader cept what I saw in a documentary and some other recent things he's talked about. Sadly often a message gets muddled by own's ego as you said.
 

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Ok, I guess I didnt know too much about Nader cept what I saw in a documentary and some other recent things he's talked about. Sadly often a message gets muddled by own's ego as you said.
It's irritating because Nader used to hold so much value as an advocate for causes people wanted to sweep under the carpet. It's the same with PETA. Everyone's for the ethical treatment of animals, but you start calling fish "kittens of the sea" and you lose all credibility. And with that goes the ability to actually move forward on crucial issues. I guess the problems arise when responsibility to the cause is abandoned for sake of ego.
 

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I guess Nader didn't know where to aim his insults ... it was Michaelangelo who insulted him, LOL.
 

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I just fear America is being led into a WW3 trap is all, and i am saddened at all the wasted billions and lives lost in war when America needs that money.
Except with WW1 and WW2, we came in late and tried to be the hero. Everyone was fighting everyone else at that point. Plus, the US got SUPPORT to fight those ones.

Yeah, I mean, Obama's not perfect, and I am VERY disappointed in most of his overseas policies, but McCain scared me half to death when he was making light jokes about bombing Iran ("Didn't the Beach Boys write a song about that?" HA HA HA! It's all fun and games until the nuclear holocaust) ... and the fact that people were actually AGREEING with him made me jump out of my skin. Heck, a year or so ago, Didn't Beauty pageant bimbo Sarah Palin say that Obama SHOULD attack Iran? Up until the polls saying no one wants to blow more money in the Middle East, that was going to be their special little baby when they won in 2012. The one big thing I can give Obama points for is not going in there... yet.

But on the other hand, he did something about healthcare (something wimply watered down) when everyone was saying "FIX IT" for decades... and once he did the lies started spewing out from hack Dr. Nick type Doctors and a certain news network that just so happens to be sponsored and paid by the big insurance companies everyone started "thinking" the system was fine by itself. Sigh... I wish they just rammed it through Congress like Bush did with Iraq. Some socialist dictator Obama was, right? I rather liked the part about it being funded by vain airheads being taxed for plastic surgery. And he did have a weak regulation plan for big business that's unfortunately never going to pass. And he didn't win the election scaring people with Gay Islamic Mexicans taking everyone's jobs while they're quietly sent to Vietnamese sweatshops.

Seriously, if you don't believe in lesser evil, at LEAST believe in greater evil.
 
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