It's understandable that this one would get some negative reviews, but every third film in "Superhero Cinema" goes through this dilemma. X-Men 3 went through the same thing last year. Some people love it, and some hated it. That's why I think they should just stop here with this one, because if they make a fourth one, the franchise will really start bombing.
As far as that news on Liv Tyler being Betty Ross goes, I'm finding a whole new reason to look forward to this sequel. Marvel really seems to have a thing going with an all-star casting for The Incredible Hulk and Iron Man next year.
To answer your question, Winslow, it might have some references to the first film, but otherwise it will be a whole completely different film. I'm surprised that some of you think the last one was good, because a lot of fans of both the comics and the 70s show with Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno thought that it was boring with all of the character development and screwed-up origins of Bruce Banner and the Hulk.
I thought the first one was good, but not great. Honestly, I just look for the story, not the action. And action seemed to have been what a lot of people were looking for in the first film.
Me too. I thought the Banner/Ross story was much more engaging than when the Hulk finally appeared. I enjoyed Nick Nolte and Josh Lucas as well. Oddly, my interest waned when Banner finally DID become the Hulk and started doing his stuff. I grew up with the TV series, but don't really recall much of it...just like I don't remember much of the live-action Spidey series from the late 1970s, although I watched it whenever it came on.
But I really liked the first
Spider-Man, mostly due to Willem Dafoe. The second one I liked slightly less, although I know many fans consider it the best of the three. Again, I liked Dafoe's brief scene, and the scene where Harry finds his father's hidden lab.
I haven't seen the third film yet, but most of the negative criticism is that Raimi crammed too much into it. One critic said he felt Venom was shoe-horned into the plot by Raimi, just because he is a fan favorite. Otherwise he has supposedly little to do. Other critics and fans felt that once Brock becomes Venom, his voice should have been dubbed by another actor to sound more menacing. Like I said, I haven't seen the film so I can't criticize one way or another.
I did read that
The Incredible Hulk will be an entirely different film. Again, I could be wrong, but from what I read the new film supposedly will start from scratch, and not make any reference to the earlier one.
I agree about "third-film" superhero cinema, with the third supposed to be the weakest.
Superman III
Batman Forever - I had so much hope for this movie when I entered the theatre. I didn't mind that Schumacher injected some campiness into it. In that way it was a bit remeniscent of the 60s TV show. Robin even spouts a "holy" line to a confused Batman. But Tommy Lee Jones WAS NOT Two-Face, who is my favorite Bat-villain, along with the Joker. Jones was never once believable as an upstanding (but flawed) D.A. who becomes a scar-faced madman after acid is hurled into his face. At least the comic book Two-Face, although psychotic, gave his victims a 50/50 chance with the toss of a coin. Jones's Two-Face was one-note. He was simply a psycho. And what about the scene where he endlessly flips his coin until it comes up on the scarred side so he can kill? I did enjoy Jim Carrey's Riddler, but he was no match for Frank Gorshin.