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(wow, I actually just rolled up my sleeves in preparation to type a response)
A few things to get out of the way:
1) BRYON, it's "WAYNE," not "WANYE." Which you know. (heh--bRYon)
2) I'm flattered that I was named by name as someone who would chime in against W&W.
3) I would have done so earlier but I was busy doing birthday stuff for Miles Saturday and wasn't back online until yesterday.
4) And then I saw a thread about W&W and chose to ignore it.
BUT, now that all those preliminaries are out of the way, here's my two cents. I appreciate the extensive bios and commentary of David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole (which is always how I think of your name), and the opinions of some of you other W&W fans. I think it's great that there are those of us who appreciate the more obscure, "forgotten" Muppets.
I think there's a reason those characters have fallen by the wayside, and become forgotten, and that's because they were boring, one-note characters that never really resonated with the audience, the writers, other characters, or with Quinn Himself. Compared to some of you, I'm a newcomer to Muppet fandom, and probably because of that, I never really got along with the first season characters. From Piggy's look to W&W to Mildred, George, and Hildy, I just don't dig it. The characters don't have the same "family" relationship with each other, they're often more cruel, and they just feel like sketches of what would later become full-fledged, warm blooded, live characters. And some of you enjoy that roughness. I don't.
Really, I do like the last part of every Wayne & Wanda sketch--when they blow up or the tree falls on them or they commit self-immolation...but I don't like the singing, and I don't like the characters. Maybe we're not meant to, in the Frank Burns/Hot Lips way that someone else suggested. But I don't see them as sympathetic characters--just pathetic. And Sam worked best as a solo.
That's it.
Quinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
A few things to get out of the way:
1) BRYON, it's "WAYNE," not "WANYE." Which you know. (heh--bRYon)
2) I'm flattered that I was named by name as someone who would chime in against W&W.
3) I would have done so earlier but I was busy doing birthday stuff for Miles Saturday and wasn't back online until yesterday.
4) And then I saw a thread about W&W and chose to ignore it.
BUT, now that all those preliminaries are out of the way, here's my two cents. I appreciate the extensive bios and commentary of David "Gorgon Heap" Ebersole (which is always how I think of your name), and the opinions of some of you other W&W fans. I think it's great that there are those of us who appreciate the more obscure, "forgotten" Muppets.
I think there's a reason those characters have fallen by the wayside, and become forgotten, and that's because they were boring, one-note characters that never really resonated with the audience, the writers, other characters, or with Quinn Himself. Compared to some of you, I'm a newcomer to Muppet fandom, and probably because of that, I never really got along with the first season characters. From Piggy's look to W&W to Mildred, George, and Hildy, I just don't dig it. The characters don't have the same "family" relationship with each other, they're often more cruel, and they just feel like sketches of what would later become full-fledged, warm blooded, live characters. And some of you enjoy that roughness. I don't.
Really, I do like the last part of every Wayne & Wanda sketch--when they blow up or the tree falls on them or they commit self-immolation...but I don't like the singing, and I don't like the characters. Maybe we're not meant to, in the Frank Burns/Hot Lips way that someone else suggested. But I don't see them as sympathetic characters--just pathetic. And Sam worked best as a solo.
That's it.
Quinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
