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Discussion in 'Sesame Merchandise' started by Phillip, Nov 1, 2012.
They're available...on the DVD, which you should buy.
I haven't gotten that far yet...but so far I really dig this DVD
I was so pleasantly surprised with this set...a lot of memories as a 39 year old lifelong Sesame Street fan!! While I will admit, I was hoping for some more bonus features, this set was fantastic!! I thoroughly enjoyed Sonia's commentary (we need more of these) on the Puerto Rico episode, "Born to Add" has long been one of my favorites...my mom got mad at me when I was 8 because I would sing it constantly and wanted to do it for a church talent show!! (Needless to say I sang something a little more appropriate instead). I found myself smiling and saying "Oh wow" throughout the episodes...so many bits I hadn't thought about in years!! Loved seeing Aristotle again, lots of Olivia this time around too!! I still have a tough time watching "Goodbye Mr. Hooper", but it's still a classic and it has taught my daughter what it taught all of us (she's 5 ).
All in all, loved this set and hope we have more on the way!!
I guess I should post my thoughts on each episode:
1316 - I wondered if I'd feel it would be a bit slow, since it's an episode focusing one of the adults and the "street scenes" (which I put in quotes since the street's hardly present) are long, many of which have long gaps between inserts. But this was a good episode. Osvaldo is good character, and the scene with Oscar talking a walk in the rain is great (though I wonder why he seems to randomly stop and place the whole can down at times). On the commentary Sonia Manzano refers to one Muppet segment (can't remember which one... the Mumford and Grover bit?) as "long by today's standards". Huh? Many of today's segments are five minutes or longer (and each episode has many of them now). And it seems the right length for the time it was made (I'd say The Magic Apple and Family Food are really long by old school standards). Also, I must agree with Sonia's comment that she had great arms back then.
1446 - I watched this one last and expected this to be one of my least favorites on this set, but it actually is one of my favorites. I like the set for the school and the hallway. For years I have wondered if Big Bird uses a restroom or if he goes potty like normal birds, and I guess this sort of explains it (though he wonders where "the birds room" is). I noticed when Big Bird takes a drink from the water fountain, his beak is at an angle that covers the water. That's a good way to avoid wasting water (or getting the beak wet). And does this school have two recesses? We get a recess segment, then another classroom scene, and then Big Bird and the kids are in the hallway again, the kids playing while Big Bird is practicing making friends. When I went to elementary school we only had one recess (and it was never in the hallway). Maybe it was lunch period, though when I was in elementary school we stayed at our tables when we were done eating.
1576 - One of the two best ones on this set. Madeline Kahn and Richard Hunt give hilarious performances. It's interesting that while Richard's character leaves for a good chunk of the episode, none of his Muppet characters show up (I feel Gladys or Forgetful could have been there when Madeline was calling to see if Big Bird was an endangered species). The only puppetry Richard does is perform the Canary brothers. And I must think, if they think a big yellow bird who can do all the stuff Big Bird can is "endangered" (since they've never heard of such a bird, but it seems normal to the street residents), I can only imagine what they'd do if they saw Mr. Snuffleupagus (even after the adults learned he was real).
1706 - I think I was looking the least forward to this one compared to the other episodes, in part because all of the street scenes are on sesamestreet.org (it's a shame the website still hasn't uploaded scenes from the remaining episodes). The opening song is great, and Rusty seems like a good character. But I get the feeling that the rest of the week's episodes are better. And I wonder how the average consumer feels that with an episode about Big Bird going to camp he only spends a little bit of time there in this particular episode.
1836 - This and episode 1576 are the two best ones on this set (coincidently they are also the only ones to contain Monsterpiece Theater segments). All of the running scenes are great to watch. Maria obviously started to believe Snuffy was real by this point and it's a shame the adults wouldn't let her go into Big Bird's nest area to see him, and that they talked her out of waiting with Big Bird to see him (why did Big Bird and Maria have to go to drop Gordon off, anyway?). I wonder what caused Snuffy to finish at night after the race had ended (did he run into more stop signs?). And I wonder what Susan and Gordon thought when they woke up and saw that they and their car were back on Sesame Street.
It's interesting how in episode 1836, each performer except Caroll Spinney only gets one character each. Martin Robinson gets Snuffy, Brian Meehl gets Telly, and Richard Hunt gets Forgetful Jones, and none of their other characters make appearances. Given the current financial situation if this were made today they'd probably cut corners and just have a few Muppets from the same performers show up, so it's interesting to be reminded that there was a time when performers might have been in only one street scene as only one character in an episode.
Also interesting how in episode 1446, it's visitors day at school, but apparrently Big Bird is the only visitor who comes to class.
Watching the set on a regular TV (playing on my PS2) instead of my laptop for the first time, and the video quality looks better on my laptop. I have noticed more darkness when watching on a Playstation 2.
According to Muppet Wiki the swedish animation skits originated on the swedish co-production of Sesame Street.
I find it interesting how this set, in contrast to the previous two volumes, seems to focus more on the episode plots (well, these episodes have more plot focus and actual plot stories, while the previous volumes episodes barely had any plots) and less on the celebrity appearances. The packaging mentions some of the episode plots but not individual segments (well it does mention Monsterpiece Theater and Beetle Bailey) and celebrity guests aren't mentioned on the box nor do any of the bons clips feature celebrity guests (besides R2D2). In fact most of the chapter stops lead to different street scenes (of course this set has five chapter stops per episode, while the previous volumes had nine chapter stops per episode), and none of the celebrity segments (except for some with Madeline Kahn) are chapter stops.
If volume 4 comes out and continues past 1984 then we'll have a bit more surprise, as we don't know what's included in the 16th season premiere. I wonder if the press release will mention that plot (I have a feeling packaging and press releases would mention the episode where the adults met Snuffy).
Something I didn't realize before until now: When I saw all the old behind-the-scenes footage I noticed all of the segments shown being filmed were from seasons 12-14. I figured that was the only classic years to have behind-the-scenes footage, and on this set most of the behind-the-scenes stuff is from those years as well. But then I realized the Exercise song is from season 15.
To everyone who currently has a copy of the DVD set, did you buy it in store (whether they had it in stock, or you had to special order it), or did you buy it online? The reason I'm asking is because, I've looked at every possible store in my area that would sell it, but none of them had it in stock.
I got mine online, but that's mostly because I could pre-order it and since there's a CVS right off campus, I could get Amazon gift cards and use them to buy it. Also, there's nowhere within walking distance really where I could buy it, so I really had no other option.
One thing I noticed is that on this set "Doll House" is the only #2 segment included that was perhaps overly-included in the past sets. None of the 2-sponsored episodes feature Henson #2 or Jazz #2 (it's a shame the #8 editions of those aren't in the episode sponsored by 8, though I know that Jazz #8 is in one of the next five season premieres, can't remember which one). It does have a few #2 segments that were on the previous volume (Pinball #2 and that "2 eyes/2 curls/2 zeros, etc." segment).
It is kind of interesting: Among the three volumes we've got 13 episodes sponsored by the number 2, and yet none of them feature Mad Painter #2 (there would have been eleven opportunities for it to have been included in one of these) or Ringmaster #2 (there's only four opportunities for this to have been on one of these sets). Of course, currently we don't know what number sponsored the season 16 premiere (it could be 2 again, but I'm hoping it's not).
I think you're thinking too much about that.
Hmmm... I guess that could be the reason why none of the stores in my area were able to put the DVD in stock...
There's something I just noticed today regarding the segments chosen to replace segments that couldn't be cleared, and I'm surprised I hadn't noticed this sooner. On the previous sets, all of the replacement segments were rare to us. I don't think the original "A Little Bit at the Beginning" is in anybody's tape collection otherwise, I'm pretty sure none of us had the Big Bird and Grover chin-ups segment (outside of the clips that appear in E.T.), and I recall a number of us wanting Grover's appearance on Beat the Time (and technically the "new" ending to episode 536 is rare, but I don't know if I'd count that).
But on this release, I don't think any of the segments chosen to replace segments are particularly rare. "Honk Around the Clock" was released on "Count It Higher" (and I think is on sesamestreet.org), a number 2 segment that appears in the second volume appears in place of a different animated segment, and I'm pretty sure all the other replacement segments can be found online. By contrast, there's a number of segments that were edited out of the Noggin broadcasts that I don't recall hearing about. Maybe the segments are noted on Muppet Wiki pages for other episodes and I just haven't seen the episode pages (or hadn't noticed them listed).
I'm not complaining about them choosing fairly common segments for this release. I feel like "Honk Around the Clock" belongs on this set, and it's great to have another Ringmaster segment.
Someone posted a review on Amazon, giving it one star. One of their reasons was that there was too much repeating of material and wanted seasons sets instead. They fail to realize how that problem would increase twenty-fold.
Got this as a Christmas gift (yayz), and although I've only caught Episode 1316 so far, I have to say I'm glad that Sonia's commentary covers the entire episode, I had a feeling she was only going to speak of the street scenes, but she also adds her own comments on all the other inserts as well, I like that.
After all this time, I finally got my own copy today (obviously as a Christmas gift). I must say that this is a great set, despite a few minor disappointments. For the most part, I pretty much skimmed through both discs, and mostly watched the stuff that was new to me. Those included the episode scenes for 1446 and 1576, I Say Banana, The first part of Weather Around the World, Big Hello 1-20, Snowflakes, Trash Outta Heaven, the original In/Out, the Behind the Scenes footage, the How to be a Grouch story, and the interview with Caroll Spinney. Eventually, I'll watch Episode 1316 with Sonia's commentary, when I get a chance. I especially loved the little character drawings that pop up on the menus. The booklet was especially fantastic (especially the character sketches and pullout).
But, all in all, Old School Volume 3 is a great DVD set, and I sure hope that Sesame Workshop and Warner Home Video bring out a 4th volume next year, or so!
After watching Episode 1446, I have two questions:
1. Why was Big Bird's old hillbilly recording of "ABC-DEF-GHI" dubbed into the episode when his voice had long evolved from that? In fact, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that he speaks normally, then sings like a hillbilly, then speaks normally again.
2. Why did Marty Robinson perform Forgetful Jones instead of Richard Hunt?
And now for a question about the set in general: why are the main titles/opening themes excluded from each episode?
Forgetful was performed by Michael Earl Davis when he debuted. When Michael left, then Richard took over.
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