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Your Thoughts: Sesame Street Old School Volume 3 1979-1984 DVD

Discussion in 'Sesame Merchandise' started by Phillip, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    "Sesame Street Old School Volume 3 1979-1984" finally arrives on DVD this Tuesday November 6. Read our review of the anticipated release. Check it out and let us know your thoughts.

    Since many of us will be getting "Sesame Street Old School Volume 3 1979-1984", we'd like to mention that if you order the DVD from Amazon using this link that a small portion of your entire order will go to Muppet Central to help keep the site, forum and radio running smoothly and help make future upgrades possible. It's a great way to help MC and get a great price on the DVD box set. We greatly appreciate each person that helps support MC by placing orders through links on our site.

    As discussed in our Sesame Street Old School Volume 3 DVD review, some of you may experience difficulty playing the second DVD. In order to determine the extent of this glitch, if you experience the problem of not being able to navigate past the main menu on disc 2, please post here and let us know the exact make and model of the DVD and Blu-ray player you are using.

    UPDATE NOVEMBER 29, 2012: Sesame Workshop has informed us that Warner Brothers home video have set-up a 1-800 number to address anyone experiencing problems with Sesame Street Old School disc 2 and will send a replacement disc to the consumer. Find out the details here to order a replacement disc from Warner Brothers.

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    If you plan to buy Old School Volume 3, please like this post and share your thoughts below.
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  2. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Do they really have to pay royalties for their own theme song?
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  3. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    I can't wait!
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I have no idea why they can't clear up their own theme song that they wrote for the show, especially since that has never ever been a problem in the past. The replacement music gives it away that it is the problem. It's not a deal breaker, neither is not including one Deena and Pearl sketch, and I will still get this, but this is something they should have worked out sooner. We're all glad this is being released, but it seems that this one was rushed out for the Holiday shopping season. That explains the glitch in the second disk. Hopefully there will be a disk replacement system and a wide distribution of second copies. I do not mind waiting longer to buy mine if they can fix that with second shipments.
  5. Taco Monster

    Taco Monster Member

    So are the opening/closing harmonica theme cues removed as well? What about the funding credits? In any case, call me overtly obsessive and fanatical if you will, but their inability to clear their own theme song has left me inclined to not support this release. Perhaps if there were a big assortment of bonus clips with some real lost gems, I might be willing to overlook the omission, but as it stands, I will not be buying this DVD.
  6. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Then that risks the chance of there not being a fourth volume. Beggars can't be chosers. I'm not happy the theme's been cut, but there is a lot of great material on this set otherwise. I'd buy it for the rare Nobel Price sketch alone. We waited five years for this thing and I wouldn't want it to be the last if this one doesn't sell.

    And who cares about the funding credits? I honestly don't get what everyone's deal with those are. Yeah, they sound funky, but that's all they have going for them.
  7. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    So... Does the "Dr. Nobel Price Umbrella" behind-the-scenes clip correspond to anything that appears in this set? All other behind-the-scenes clips do.

    Wow, it looks like none of the bonus clips include The Count or Herry (unless they are part of "the cast" in Trash Outta Heaven). Considering Jerry Nelson's recent passing it's a shame that there seems to be a lack of bonus clips featuring his characters. It's also shameful that no Count segments appear as bonuses when one Count segment is cut and only three other Count segments appear among the episodes. The Count was also hardly represented in the bonus features on the past two Old School releases and was hardly in the 40th anniversary set.

    If this doesn't sell well enough to justify producing a fourth volume, I hope they can make some classic releases like the Elmo's Magic Number releases by containing two full episodes on one disc. Heck, I'd accept that for a release of 1990s episodes.
  8. Taco Monster

    Taco Monster Member

    I realize I may be in the minority, but if there are future volumes, and they're treated like this, then I won't be supporting them either. The funding credits and Friday credit crawls alone wouldn't have been a make-or-break deal for me, as much as I am a completist and have a fascination with how they've evolved. But the fact that they can't clear their own theme song in any form is just ridiculous, and I also feel like they dropped the ball with classic clips compared to previous releases.

    Sorry, but I just don't think it's worth shelling out the money for episodes that aren't at least presented in something close to their complete form (and that were aired on Noggin), just for a handful of rare clips that will probably be uploaded online soon enough anyway. Your mileage may vary, of course.
  9. zns

    zns Well-Known Member

    Wonderful review Phil. This is definitely something I might add to my Christmas list. The episodes sound great, despite the edits. And the bonus features are enough to wet any Sesame Street fans appetite. Thank you so much for this great review.

    P.S.
    Will there be a review for the new book coming out "Imagination Illustrated: The Jim Henson Journal"?
  10. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I don't mean to sound rude, that's a very "fair-weather fan" mentality.
  11. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Ever since I read that this set only has five extra clips per season, I thought it'd be cool if Sesame Workshop put out a single-disc release of segments from 1979-1984, maybe call it "Old School Lite" (I'd like to see such a single-disc release of bonus clips from the first 15 seasons). It would make a good exclusive bonus disc at a place like Best Buy.

    I'm surprised to see that Waving Goodbye is from season 12. Michael Earl's Muppet Wiki pages says that Michael Earl originated Polly Darton, and he was on the show when this segment was made (I believe Michael Earl added that info himself). I wonder if he gave up the role early or if maybe they thought Polly needed a natural-sounding woman's voice. I wondered if maybe it was a mistake (like how Henson Ball #3 is included as a season 15 segment when it really originated in season 2), but then when looking at the Waving Goodbye to You with my Heart page at Muppet Wiki I saw that it has a 1980 copyright date.

    Does the booklet contain a listing of credits like the first two, or are all the credits only in that pdf file? And does this booklet include an interview with any Muppets?

    It's great to see that an Aristotle clip is included, even if it is one that's on sesamestreet.org.
  12. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure Michael just did the puppeteering for her, not the voice. "Waivin' Goodbye" is clearly Fran singing.
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I agree, but I do see the disappointment. Hopefully volume 4 will be much like Muppet Show volume 2... more care will be taken to clear the rights that time. There was always cuts in the Old School volumes for strange reasons (though, eh... if there's one cut they SHOULD have made, it's replacing Dollhouse with something not on 3 episodes already). The problem I see is that if they were able to clear Star Wars characters, they should have made time to work out rights with the Theme song. If SW doesn't own it, who does? I can't believe Lucasfilm is more generous than song rights. And frankly, they negotiated that clip just in time. Still, if it meant we would have to wait a little longer if they could get their own theme song , I don't think we really would have minded.

    I just want an insider to tell us what the problem was. We used to get those guys a lot around here. Now, not so much.

    But I'm still buying this.
  14. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    While I don't care for the edits, I'm actually glad "Honk Around the Clock" made it onto the set; it's my favorite all-time Sesame song. "I Want to Count" isn't one of their best spoofs anyway and they don't do any actual counting until the ending vamp.
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It's not that Honk Around the Clock isn't rare, but I love it too. It's not too disappointing that we don't get the Cab Calloway thing... it's probably online. If anything, the only real disappointment is that there's no Les Mostley or Deena and Pearl, but I guess if we pester SW nicely, they'll put one on Youtube or something some day. Not make or break.

    I'm still really psyched about this, cuts and all.
  16. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Me too; I just wish Amazon would ship it already. :grr:
  17. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    It seems character rights must be easier for Sesame Workshop to obtain than song rights. The previous Old School volumes and the 40th anniversary set managed to clear quite a few, many by choice (as opposed to them appearing in episodes selected which if they couldn't be cleared would mean something would have to be cut). Of course, many of the outside copyrighted characters who have appeared on the show appeared in multiple segments. I wonder if clearing one appearance for DVD automatically clears all other appearances for further use (then again, I know that The Best of the Electric Company Volume 1 features appearances by Spider-Man and Road Runner which are cut from volume 2).

    Part of me feels that if volume 4 comes out I'd like it to have 5 or 6 random episodes from the first fifteen seasons plus a selection of bonus clips and bonus street stories, as opposed to the season 16-20 premieres. But on the other hand, if volume 4 has the premieres, we'll finally know what happens in the season 16 premiere, and we'll get the episode where Snuffy is revealed as real (the last of the season premieres that Muppet Wiki does not know what was cut on Noggin).

    I don't think I was particularly looking forward to anything that's cut from this release (you could say the same about volume 2). And yet most of the Noggin edits and replacements are clips I'm not too familiar with. It was mentioned that Noggin cut one Geometry of Circles clip. I wonder which one it is. I'm sure it's hard to describe them individually, but I hope it is one that's not in either of the other episodes to have it.

    Looking at an episode menu, it looks like each chapter stop only has 5 selections. Every episode on the previous two volumes has 9 chapter stops each (I actually counted and checked a month ago). It doesn't really matter either way, but at the same time, I don't think chapter stops add to disc space or money.
  18. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    They are still there. The closing music and credits are removed though. So each show ends with the familiar "Sesame Street is a production of the Children's Television Workshop" voice over. Followed by the 70's PBS animation and then a 2012 Sesame Workshop and Muppets Studio copyright for the Kermit footage.

    It's just my opinion, but at first I was shocked the theme was gone too. But it isn't as bad as it sounds, espescially since 1316 didn't include an opening theme song any way. Once you see all the great clips in DVD quality the missing theme song may become much less of an issue.
  19. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I had no idea one of the episodes didn't have the theme in the first place (I wonder if it had to do with the first week of season 11 being edited into the hour-long "Sesame Street Goes to Puerto Rico" special). Speaking of the DVD quality, I am impressed by the quality of the behind-the-scenes footage, and that's just going by the stills in the review (I don't recall the behind-the-scenes footage looking that crisp on the 40th anniversary set).
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  20. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    More Jerry Nelson is always a good thing. However, keep in mind that these clips were already selected before Jerry's passing. Some special things in honor of Jerry are being planned for 2013. I'm hoping for a tribute album.

    On the last two pages of the booklet, there's a group shot of several Jerry characters: The Count, Mr. Johnson, the Two-Headed Monster, Sherlock Hemlock and Herry. It's no coincidence these friends are all together.
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