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Unofficial Script Review of the New Muppet Movie

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by wherestheanykey, Mar 18, 2009.

  1. MuppetMazz

    MuppetMazz Well-Known Member

    But wasn't that Gonzo supposed to play the minister in Manhattan Melodies, not in Muppets Take Manhattan...so technically in the Muppeverse they would be wed, right? Unless you would take it as each movie seems to rewrite the Muppeverse and completely change the origin stories and relationships completely (which is my opinion) and therefore the relationship was merely for that movie only.
  2. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    I always viewed Muppets Take Manhattan as a sequel to TMM, as origins aren't really addressed in the latter. I always assumed their rich and famous contract enabled them to go to college ... note how Kermit said he was shocked that they could go (IIRC). So, to me at least, MTM never rewrote anything. Muppet Babies was a dream sequence ... which was then completely messed up with MFC. Other than that, though, MTM never really messes anything up, as far as I'm aware.
  3. MuppetMazz

    MuppetMazz Well-Known Member

    I guess where I get the impression that MTM overwrites history is that Kermit is so hesitant to go Broadway considering somehow they got to Hollywood and made a movie. They already had clout...wouldn't they be able to call someone up and get hooked up to a producer? That would have been Stage 1 of the plan...not go through the Classifieds and pick random producers.

    I mean maybe the first one but once they almost got taken by Dabney Coleman or thrown out once by someone else some Muppet should have said "Hey, let's call up Orson Welles or whoever that dude was and maybe he can hook us up for a musical on Broadway. After all, it might lead to a sequel movie for him or at least drum up interest in the one already made."

    Given they made no reference at all to have already met and made a Hollywood film, I assumed this was another origin story reboot with them meeting at college.
  4. Nick22

    Nick22 Well-Known Member

    i dont know why it rully matters what messed things up. they're both amazing movies, and i honestly could care less about what got messed up, cause rully nothing did. i thnik redpiggy got it spot on. it's just kind of a sequel.
  5. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    But it's not the seventies anymore, either. You can be a star one year and a homeless guy the next. He wanted a rich and famous contract -- he failed to mention "for all eternity". That's how contracts work ... pay attention to the fine print. :) Besides, Kermit's characterization always has him doubt the big dreams, like he feels he can't pull it off.

    Except I don't recall them ever saying they met in college. We could just as well assume they met somewhere else. The way Kermit words it in his speech, it sounds like the Muppets were admitted as a group, more or less.
  6. MuppetMazz

    MuppetMazz Well-Known Member

    Don't get me wrong...I never said anything got "messed up". They are all great movies, no doubt. I just always view the stroylines in each as encapsulated as a story for that movie and not really sequels. If they are to be treated as sequels I am just thinking how it would play into everything else.

    So was the order MM, MTM, Muppet Show, GMC? GMC was absolutely out of the normal timeline. I would assume that the Muppet Show didn't happen before either movie, it would have had to come after.

    Would love to get some updated info on this current film.
  7. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Depends on your outlook, I guess. The Muppet Movie was framed by "the present", so it's arguable whether or not it predates TMS (and even that's ignoring Kermit's comment that it's not exactly a literal representation of how they met, which makes it sound like MM is Kermit's dream of what happened, and MTM's Muppet Babies spot is Piggy's version). GMC is its own thing and unless you count the OOC moments, it doesn't really need a timeline, though obviously they all know each other at this point, so TMS and MM have happened. TMS has to technically predate the Muppet Movie because Kermit tells Roy Rogers that he just got through with their first movie.

    Whatever the issues are, the Muppets sure make it hard to pin down a decent timeline. :D
  8. ZeppoAndFriends

    ZeppoAndFriends Well-Known Member

    Here is a Muppet News Flash!

    I have just been on the Internet Movie Database and their article about the new Muppet movie states that it has pushed it back to 2012!

    *Gets pelted with popcorn and empty candy boxes*
  9. scottishpiggy

    scottishpiggy Well-Known Member

    hey, maybe that just means times getting taken to ensure the quality of the movie!:smirk:

    Dont want a rushed movie....muppets from oz was rushed, and although had a few minor good points, kinda fell down as a whole IMO....or maybe im wrong and it took ages.....I was just so dissapointed in that, I was soooooo thrilled it was coming out that I maybe just overhyped myself....

    Still, even if its pushed back, at least its officially announced.... :D
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    ... the same IMDB that once said that Captain Smollet was the star of A Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie?

    Grain of salt, man....
  11. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    Link...? It would be nice if you could back up your claim. :smirk:
  12. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I also think that even if the movie was dealyed that there are going to be more Muppety things out there.
  13. GuySmileyfan

    GuySmileyfan Well-Known Member

    What? That's just great. Looks like Jason Segel is being lazy.:mad:
  14. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    How are you going to spin this into becoming Jason Segel's fault? From what we've heard, his scrpit was finalized and sent to the Disney higher-ups. What more can he do about it from there? It's not Segel's fault at ALL. He's the one trying to bring the Muppets back, so don't say he's being "lazy."
  15. ZeppoAndFriends

    ZeppoAndFriends Well-Known Member

    I know it can be unreliable (The parents guide for 'Follow That Bird' was once vandalized and made it out to be a sex-filled gore-fest) but, they are pretty accurate when it comes to release dates.
  16. ZeppoAndFriends

    ZeppoAndFriends Well-Known Member

    I'm no good with stuff like that, man. :confused:
  17. Nick22

    Nick22 Well-Known Member

    so it's not coming until 2012? *sigh*
  18. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    IMDB is not a reliable source. The fact is that nobody knows anything. It's not likely to come out for a while, but it could shoot later this year or sometime next year and come out in 2010, 2011, 2012 or even beyond. Only the folks at Disney have a clue. ;)
  19. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Sometimes I think audiences were better off barely knowing the details that go into developing a film. Don't get me wrong, sometimes audience support or protest is needed while a picture is being made. Still, it wasn't so long ago that leaks and rumors were hard to come by and in many ways, that was a good thing. ;)
  20. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Disney is going to be very careful the movie they put out with the Muppets. There are rumors going around that there are two scripts out there. One by Jim Lewis (who is being very secretive about it) and Jason Seagal's movie. I would love for them to do both, but know the chances of that are really slim to none. Both writers have a wonderful sence of humor, but they also have a very different type of humor. If there are two scripts out there Disney is going to have to look at both of them carefully and see which is the right one for them to make.

    Here is all I can get on imdb. it looks to me like for the true details or secrets you'll need a pass or something. Just another trick to get ya to spend money, and when ya get it wont tell you anything. Here is the link if anyone has more access to this then please let us know.


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