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The Muppets may be in trouble. :-/

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by MrBloogarFoobly, Dec 4, 2011.

  1. MuppetsFan4Life

    MuppetsFan4Life Active Member

    I watched Twlight: Breaking Dawn AND The Muppets, and I don't really feel bad for it. I'm Team Edward and Team Kermit, but I really want The Muppets to pull through.
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

  3. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I thought it already beat MTI as the second highest-grossing. So currently it's only the fourth highest?
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It's still fifth by a little... unless there's a report that gave the Muppets a million more. No doubt by the weekend it will get there and be the second highest. And that's BY the weekend. The weekend can add up at least another 10 mil. &0 million isn't terrible for a domestic on such a slow movie going season, especially with that competition.

    At least it didn't open at 4th and sink fast, like Pooh unfortunately did. THAT's the disappointing movie gross.
  5. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    Last post I'll make complaining about this:

    It amazes that people always complain that these movies destroy their childhoods by making the characters CG and such, but they become huge hits. When a movie is made that presents beloved childhood characters the same exact way we know and love them, people stay far away from it. I don't get it! :mad:

    These complaining people are turning this into a cultural phenomenon!
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    EH... the people who complain about it virtually never see them and have nothing to do for or against them other than complaining. Sure, some will see it out of spite so they have something to complain about (bows), but most of them will just complain about it and not bother.

    Chipmunks is a "cultural phenomenon" because the little ankle biters wanna see it. They have no clue who these guys were other than maybe the fact that they sing something during Christmas. And it's that loose connection TO Christmas that made that film a success (and the fact there really wasn't any other big kid's film since). In fact, Fox clearly didn't realize how big the film could have done. No body did. Still, other than poor casting of Dave, the fact that they made them small to comply with the very first Chipmunks albums for no reason, and the consumption of fecal matter in one scene... there really isn't much to the Chipmunks other than the fact they were a novelty record that was deemed good enough for a couple cartoon shows. The first one was enjoyable, nothing great... the second was just poorly executed, even though the concepts of them going to High School and the Chipettes being die hard fans used as a ploy to get revenge on the Chipmunks were pretty good.

    Still, this wasn't the case with the Muppets movie. Most of the comments varied from "I want to see this badly" to "please don't suck" (meaning that they will watch it, yet complain if it indeed was terrible), there was a lot of internet buzz, and clearly the college nostalgia crowd heard. The Simpsons put it best last night, "All the things I loved as a kid and hated as a teenager I love again as an adult!" Kids and parents are seeing the film in droves, but there ARE some kids still seeing the other 3, much lesser quality kid's films. but the thing is, they aren't by a long stretch close to the Muppets. I'm actually surprised (happily) that Happy Feet 2 is doing so meh.

    This Weekend was SLOW all around for the same reasons I've stated. The Muppets probably wouldn't have done that well during Summer (where they'd be lost in the shuffle) or closer to Christmas even without Chipmunks 3. Somehow the holiday season is much more competition that summer was. Summer has the luxury of releasing a bulk of blockbusters for 3 months (May-July), and even though every film came in week after the next, they all managed to do well enough, at least have one number 1 weekend in cases. Thor one weekend, POTC a few weeks later... and like that. This season, everything's coming out in 2 months. 4 Kid's films in just 2 weeks. There were, like, how many summer kid's films in 3 months? 3 Major ones, Smurfs, Cars, and Kung Fu Panda (all evenly spaced), plus the disappointingly weak performance of Winnie the Pooh (which was BRILLIANT), a poorly performing movie based on a kid's book and something else with Selena Gomez. Not counting Spy Kids 4... August again. There was less competition in 3 months than there was in 2 weeks.
  7. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Most high schoolers and college kids in America have what I call first world problems. Thats why I had to chuckle with those "we are the 99 percent" occupy chuckleheads.
    "yeah so why is starbucks taking so long with my mocha latte...and why isnt their wi fi working on my ipad2 and cross platforming with my iphone4 and android phone?"
  8. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Yes, our problems are different from the third world problems. But it is true that in the richest country in the world we have far too many people in need.
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    "Why am I on a wait list to scrub toilets that will barely pay for my student loans that I won't get because I speak English and can't be threatened with the INS when I want something decadent like Healthcare and or minimum wage?"

    Silliest one of all.
  10. Speed Tracer

    Speed Tracer Well-Known Member

    These aren't the issues at hand, and anyone involved with the protests - including yours truly - will fight against a label like that.
    CensoredAlso likes this.
  11. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    I want to know what the appeal is of Twilight? Is it purely a sexual/hormonal release thing? Go pay $11 to watch some hunky lunks fight over some cold lipped damzel? I don't get it. I mean Underworld series and the Covenant looked similar, but flopped at the box office. I guess the Muppets just cant compete with knicker moistening agitprop.
  12. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Mostly it's an outlet for lonely teenage girls.
  13. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    I was regularly involved in anti war/anti war on terror protests, free palestine, and other protest/rallys a few years ago back when it was considered too taboo and even too controversial for these liberal whipper snappers:) I kept waiting for an en masse awakening of the collective American mindset both college and worker to rise up against these corporate globalist nwo wankers, so Im overall happy with the occupy movement. I just to see it get more focused. Im appy with the idea of squatting/taking over vacant and foreclosed properties.
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I feel it has the appeal of terrible fan fics where they randomly pair up characters. I think that's what female porn is... bad forced relationship crap. I don't wanna get too into that, as it's of an adult nature not suitable for this site... but yeah. it's ALL about the sex, albeit slow PG-13 friendly relationship porn. And I SWEAR 75% of the audience is there ironically. But that's not the competition, and we all know it. Sure, Muppets would probably be number 1 without that thing, but I'm sure it would make the same amount of money anyway.

    The problem is that there's so many core reasons to be angry that there's no clear voice. The things I completely understand they hate the fact Welfare and social security is getting huge cuts while the Kardashians pay no taxes on their millions of TV shows, the fact that the only difference between dropping out of High School and graduating college is the high school dropout doesn't have thousands of dollars in student loans eating into HIS (HER) BK minimum wage check, and that corporations buy government to make sure they don't lose money (how inbred ARE these CEO's?)... but I don't understand why they don't A) clarify and B) focus their anger at different levels, starting with the greedy, bottom feeding stock traders that manipulate the economy so they can get short term gains. All I'm saying, how come we've been in and out of the recession 20 times when companies are making record profits? Manipulating stocks... that's what.
  15. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Oh dude, GE paid NO taxes last year. None. This is the company that owns NBC/MSNBC(yeah "liberal" my behind), makes weapons the US drops on villagers, and so many other things. They made billlllions in profit, didnt pay a darn penny.

    Yeah Americans, even the very poor, are glued to their tvs for these ugly celebrity/rich people worship fests.

    Here's an example of how messed up things are. Saudi Arabia uses its leverage in washington to turn the FBI and CIA into mo larry and curly in 2000-2001, then uses 19 operatives to kill 3000 Americans later that year. What happens next? America bombs and invades Afghanistan and Iraq, and gives Saudi Arabia 60 billion dollars in defense and oil contracts and becomes bff to the point of Saudi royalty influencing the Bush administration to invade Iraq.

    Or when Wall Street lobbied Bush to have the EPA lie through their teeth about the ground zero air quality so they could reopen.

    Or when Dyncorp was caught running child sex slavery rings in Bosnia and Afghanistan in recent years, as well as Blackwater involved in all sorts of killings...they were covered up by the state department and continued receiving federal funding.

    In foreign examples, Pfizer was literally killing African children in lab experiments against their will in 1996 out in Nigeria. Glaxoklinesmith and other big pharma have been tied to similar stuff. The country of Bolivia was invaded by Bechtel corporation, who privatized all water to wear even collecting rain water was illegal. They used the army to kill people in 2000 trying to get water. Dow chemical killed 30,000 people in Bhopal India, not much happened to them. And big oil like Chevron and Shell destroyed large parts of Ecuador and Nigeria, while Coca Cola hires death squads to kill union leaders in Columbia.

    Worst of all? Bayer, who was one of the instruments of the holocaust during WW2, knowlingly was spreading HIV tainted hemophiliac medication to patients(including a large portion who were children) in North America in the early and mid 80's, and then dumped the AIDS causing medication all over the world before they were caught. Hardly anything happened to them.

    But because of how the media is controlled, you only hear about this in the newspaper or in shorter news segments noone sees.
  16. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    They're glued to it because they are poor. It takes their minds off the harsh reality.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    No, they're glued to it because they're MORONS! They think they're laughing at the motley crew of hos they have on those programs, but even ironic ratings are ratings. The only way to defeat them is to turn the television off and stop talking about them.
  18. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Some of them yes, lol. But overall it's a way to distract from their own miserable lives with no prospects.
  19. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    You need to see the Mike Judge comedy from a few years ago called
    Idiocracy to see where America is heading(or already is)
    It's beyond a distraction...

    People talk about books like 1984 or films like Network and They Live, but they may not realize just how saturated every part of their life is with commercials(true brainwashing), media programming, and negative tropes and memes they buy into...and especially very unhealthy food choices.

    I can see why foreigners laugh at us.
  20. Speed Tracer

    Speed Tracer Well-Known Member

    I guess it depends on where you look. Everyone I've spoken to at the several protests I've been to have no complaints about their coffee or technology. If you can point me towards them, I'll gladly do my part and tell them there are more important things happening.

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