Snoop Doggy Dog (The Degenerate)

[grail]

how dare you...

you smug little holier than thou *******! there is not ONE SINGLE PERSON HERE that is advocating murder, as you keep trying to imply. and you just flat out stated that we were all on drugs, and you have the pure sack to sit there in your little glass house and say that we insulted YOU? what you don't seem to get is that we all seem to AGREE that he shouldn't be on the show. none of us actually seem to enjoy him. but if he is truly trying to turn his image around, then i am behind him 100%. i don't care how many mistakes one has made, there is always room for redemption. i would never keep a person from that chance.

the "truth" that you claim to have given us is one only of your own invention, and not any type of real insight at all...

get a life, jerk

 

[AruggeRadio]

From sidcrowe:
<<<He made real, explicit, XXX-rated porn last year.

Jim Henson wouldn't have allowed a person of that ilk to be on a Muppet Show; you know that.>>>

Yes, Henson did allow someone like that to be on the Muppet show. Sylvester Stallone, did a XXX Movie in the early 1970's its no secret, yet he was still a guest star on the muppet show. Jim Henson still allowed Sly to appear on the muppet show even though it was common knowledge that Sly did that film.

I find it funny that all you could do to put yourself over is to personally attack myself for stating something. What I had stated were facts, obviously you fear facts. You yourself may have not called Snoop a Murder but others did. Thats what I was stating thank you. But I'm not going to lower myself to your level. The topic on hand is Censorship, and our forefathers didn't fight for Free Speech just to have some yahoo with a pen who doesn't like one persons opinion decided what you or I can hear and read.

 

[sidcrowe]

It's plain to see you were behind Snoop "100%" right from the start.

If nothing else, the conduct of his most ardent fans proves what kind of people he attracts.

I don't apologize to people who call me foul names as they ask me to do so. They don't deserve it. Plus, I have no need to apologize. The last big snit I was in was with Luke, and I apologized to him in public and in private. But no to you lot. So there

You folks are collectively––like an angry alcoholic vagrant.

You're minding your own business in public, then the vagrant looks at you and says, as he's spoiling for a fight:

"What are you looking at?"

Then a normal person says, in order to avoid conflict with someone who wants to start something:

"I'm not looking at anything."

The angry vagrant answers with:

"You saying I'm NOTHING?!!!"

You see? An argument over nothing. That's what you've made.

"Get a life"

Oh, HOW ORIGINAL OF YOU!

We've all never heard THAT one before

We're ALL on a Muppet messageboard; why don't you ask that question of yourself

You three don't have the scope or the depth to understand what a special thing Jim Henson gave us.

The good things in the world are rare and precious.

You've demonstrated NO moral outrage whatsoever about Snoop's participation in the Christmas special, and no amount of jubilation over his being cut out of it. But YOU ARE angry, spoiling for a fight, and determined to start one over nothing, aren't you?

Just like an angry street vagrant.

We know what you're really angry about. Your Snoop is booted off the Henson show. Good! He should be.

In regards to your insistence that your anger is fueled by something else...I quote from William Shakespeare:

"He doth protest too much."

 

[Skeeter Muppet]

You've demonstrated NO moral outrage whatsoever about Snoops participation in the Christmas special, and no amount of jubilation over his being cut out of it.

Because I never cared that he was on in the first place. And I've never cared for Snoop Dogg in the first place. That doesn't mean I have the right to judge him or any of his fans, unlike certain people in this forum (I'm not naming names; I don't have to). You are putting words in our mouths now, and drawing conclusions.

I repeat, someone close this thread NOW, before things REALLY get out of hand.

-Kim

 

[petrieboy]

The meaning of Christmas

"The broadcast would have reinforced popular culture's sterotype of black males as foul mouthed, gangbanging, dope dealing homeboys"

Yeah, darn those stereotypical foul mouthed, gangbanging, dope dealing homeboys who, so stereotypically, won't stop trying to appear on Muppet programs.

I'm gonna say it again- I am a Christian- and I have had it up to the gills with this world. The world is a big, stinkin, nasty, drugged out, dreary and violent place with little bits of goodness thrown in all around. Let's think of Snoop like a "bad" kid... you reprimand the kid when he does something wrong, fine. But you reprimand the kid when he does something right (agrees to spend time with life-affirming creatures of foam and felt) and YOU are the one in the wrong.

If you're concerned about your child being exposed to Snoop, or anyone else who's a human being who hasn't lived a "Godly" life, then why not sit down and watch the show with your child--- explaining that though we all sin, God will forgive us. I can guarantee you that Snoop would not have brought any violence, cursing, or sex to this Christmas special.

The Muppets never fail to act out the grace of God--- but denying Snoop a chance at "redemption" is the furthest thing from grace.

Ever hear the line from that most famous of Christmas songs...
"GOD AND SINNERS RECONCILE"

 

[sidcrowe]

AruggeRadio

Yes, take note of what YOU really said: A 70s porno.

That's been around for years. And it was soft core; meaning Sly didn't show his genitals. Read about it years ago.

Snoop's video is as explicit as can be. No matter how much venom gets bandied about here, I will NOT discuss what happens in the Snoop video. Big difference between a lame sofcore from the 70s and a woman-belittling hardcore vid from a year ago. Now, to review again, just for you:

Sly was never a member of a murderous organization; Snoop was.

Snoop was a member of a gang of killers who killed people...DEAD!

Murder...

Kill...

Dead...

There's some sand on the ground, I suggest you start burying your head in it.

 

[sidcrowe]

petrieboy...

The innocent people who have been KILLED by the *&^%$#@ Crips aren't getting ANY second chances.

And until Snoop RENOUNCES his past REAL gangsta life, he has NO place on a Henson special.

If parents have a problem with Snoop on the show, they should......wait, here's a better idea....they should just THANK THEMSELVES FOR KEEPING THE FELON OFF IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Works for me

(the only one still using smilies in this)

(boy, Froggy is gonna shut this right down when he gets back )

 

[Skeeter Muppet]

(boy, Froggy is gonna shut this right down when he gets back )

This thing should have been shut down a LONG time ago.

-Kim

 

[sidcrowe]

I'd bet this is gonna be frozen real soon, so just to put it in a nutshell:

Snoop Dogg was in league with a clearly defined group of killers.

He needs to renounce that life--IN A BIG WAY––before he gets in a Henson project.

He hasn't, and he got in anyway.

Henson is an oasis of calm and goodness, and I hate to have it violated.

I take it pretty seriously, I guess

 

[petrieboy]

How Many Has Snoop Killed

The Crips killed a bunch of people huh? So, in the past, did psycho fundamentalist (but fully lost and Godless) Christians, and I label myself a Christian. Would you have kicked me off the show, seeing as how I've yet to murder anyone.