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Questions we may never know the answer

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by AmazingMumford, Mar 5, 2005.

  1. AmazingMumford

    AmazingMumford New Member

    Are there any questions any of you have about classic Sesame Street, but may never know the answer to simply because you weren't born yet in the 70's and/or the answers to your questions were never on Noggin. Here are some of mine.

    Was there ever a job when Mr. Hooper was looking for help and David got hired at Hooper's Store, similar to the episode when David hires Gina from 1987?

    Was there ever an episode with the opening of the Fix it Shop?

    Was there ever a week of episodes from the late 70's early 80's when they redid the fix it shop?

    Did Roosevelt Franklin ever star in a show and was part of the street story

    Was Kermit ever part of a street story?

    What are some questions you all have?
  2. sesameguy

    sesameguy Member

    Hi- I know the answer to at least one of these! There was indeed a series of shows that dealt with the construction of the new fix-it shop. It was in the early 1980s. This series was a little bit historic in that this is where Telly Monster became a much more prominent member of the cast. He had already "debuted" as a character, but now he began to be the "worrisome" fellow we know.

    In that early Telly skit, Telly stands outside the Fix-it-Shop which is practically covered in a big orange paper sign that says "Closed for alterations." Because it says "closed," Telly thinks no one can go in there, so he can't understand why all the people are walking in and out - he learns of course that they're helping rebuild the store.

    This series ends with everyone gathered in the Fix-it-shop to watch a home movie that Olivia made of creation of the shop. When the film ends abruptly, the cast asks where the happy ending is. The lights turn on, and Olivia motions to the inside of the new store and says, "Here's the happy ending!"
  3. AmazingMumford

    AmazingMumford New Member

    That is SO COOL!! Iv'e always wondered about this. I wish I could have seen these shows. I'm shocked they weren't on Noggin. I take it theyr'e from very early in Season 12
  4. hooperdusty

    hooperdusty New Member

    As far as David being Hooper's assistant, I think that after the character of Tom was gone (third season), David just got the job.

    There's an early show from the fourth season where Hooper catches David studying behind the counter and starts berating him saying, "When I worked at a job, I WORKED!" David gets a little stuffy and tells Hooper that he's reading his college book, studying to be a lawyer, which changes Hooper's mood immediately. In fact, Hooper tells David to take the rest of the day off, and he'll work instead (it was Hooper's day off at the time), calling David, "Mr. Lawyer".

    There was a book on education in television that featured this script. No, I do not have the actual episode on video (wish I did!).

    HooperDusty
  5. AmazingMumford

    AmazingMumford New Member

    The question about Kermit being part of the plot of a show, I have a fuzzy memory on. It seems like I remember an episode in the early 80's when it was Luis's Birthday and Kermit wanted to make Luis a cake, but he had never baked one before, but tried anyways and the cake turned out to be terrible, but Luis didn't want to hurt his feelings. Now I don't know if I dreamed this up or what. But I'm thinking it could have been Telly and not Kermit.
  6. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    The only time I saw Kermit on a street story was in the recent hurricane episodes. I think he just stuck to lectures and news flashes. Then again, I wasn't around in the 70s, so I wouldn't know for sure.
  7. SesameMike

    SesameMike Member

    A corrolary to this: people and places we've heard about, but have never seen.

    -- "Charlie", of Charlie's Restaurant. We do hear one side of Grover's conversations with him, though. Nor have we seen the dog Charlie keeps in or near the kitchen. For instance, when Fat Blue decided he wanted one less egg and one more strip of bacon, Grover could be heard saying, from behind the doors, "I don't know, give it to the dog." presumably in reference to the wasted sunny-side egg.

    Curiously, in "Charlie's Angels" we never saw Charlie either, but at least we heard his voice.

    -- Bert's Aunt Matilda.

    -- Mr. Snuffleuppagas's cave. An abandoned MTA subway tunnel, perhaps? How else can a creature of that size live so inconspicuously in a large city.
  8. hooperdusty

    hooperdusty New Member

    Snuffy's cave

    In the "Bedtime Stories and Songs" video there's a clip where Gordon is in Snuffy's cave, plus there was an episode from the late 90s where Maria, Luis and Gabby helped babysit Mr. Snuffleupagus and Alice in the cave as well.

    HooperDusty
  9. AmazingMumford

    AmazingMumford New Member

    Mr. Snuffleupagus's cave has in fact been seen over the years. I can name off a few times that it's been seen.

    In Season 17, (1985-1986) Snuffy convinces Gordon to come to his house for a Sleepover. I can't remember much about this episode but it ends with Gordon sleeping on the floor of Snuffy's Cave with Mr. Snuffleupagus and she he has his snuffle wrapped right around him.

    In an episode from Season 21 Gordon is seen in Snuffy's cave with Mrs. Snuffleupagus and he's holding a jar of Chicken Soup that is for Miles cause Miles is sick. Mrs S is making a Big Huge pot of Cabbage Soup for Snuffy cause that's what she gives him when he is sick. They each sing a song about the different kinds of soups and then they sing them at the same time similar to the Breakfast time song with Ernie and Cookie.

    In an episode from Season 23 1991-1992 Prarie goes over to spend the day in Snuffy's cave with him. They have Spagetti for lunch and I remember Prarie sucks the Spagetti down all in one string.

    There are probably many other times Snuffy's cave was shown on the show. These are the only ones I can remember right off hand. Does anyone else know of any others?
  10. Boober_Gorg

    Boober_Gorg Active Member

    I know of an episode from Season 20 or 21 where Bob's brother "Minneapolis" (Jeff Goldblum) takes Bob, Big Bird and Snuffy on a quest for "The Golden Cabbage of Snuffertiti." I think they looked in Snuffy's cave ... I'm not sure.
  11. GeeBee

    GeeBee New Member

    Kermit was in a few street segments. In the early 70's, Susan put him to bed on the window sill because he was sick. Kermit did a "One of These Things" skit in the street with Susan. He was in the street on "Christmas Eve on Sesame Street." He was also in the street as a reporter when Slimey was coming down from the moon. (If you count Gordon and Susan's apartment as a "street" scene, Kermit was there in the very first episode too.) There were probably other times.

    The only time I remember Roosevelt Franklin in a street scene was in a mid seventies episodes that opened with a bunch of the characters reciting the alphabet with the first letter in their names. However, there have been more that I just don't know about.
  12. Lone Wolf

    Lone Wolf New Member

    I would say your memory is probably playing tricks on you. If it's from the early 80s as you say, it's unlikely that it would have been Kermit. In the early years of the show Jim Henson's characters, like Kermit and Ernie did appear often in street scenes, but from the mid 70s onward, when The Muppet Show went into production and the Henson company started doing Muppet Movies and other projects, he couldn't committ the same time to Sesame Street anymore. Given that plus the fact that he also had to deal with all the complications of running a growing business, it's no wonder that his characters rarely, if ever, appeared in street scenes.
  13. GelflingWaldo

    GelflingWaldo New Member

    You don't see the cave, but they do show his mail-box and area around his cave in "Follow that Bird".
  14. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Isn't the cave also in a near-by (to SS) park?
  15. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    more questions

    I have some questions that we may never know the answers to (of course, i don't have noggin, so I am just assuming that these were not answered in Sesame Street Unpaved).

    did proffessor hastings, harvey kneeslapper, deena, pearl, little jerry, herbert birdsfoot or guy smiley ever star in any street plots?

    were there any gags involving deena and pearl thinking that they might have seen mr. snuffleupagus? (after all, their sketches involved using their imagination, so they might have seen snuffy but though they were imagining things)

    has herry monsters stripped pants (which he normally wears in illustrations) ever been shown on sesame street?
  16. GeeBee

    GeeBee New Member


    With some of those muppets, the answer is definitely yes. Harvey Kneeslapper was in a street skit where he put confetti in Molly the Mail Lady's hat as a prank, however, the tables got turned on him.

    Little Jerry and the Monotones was in a late 80's skit where they came to Sesame Street and talked to Gina, their number one fan. Gina got so excited, she fainted in David's arms.

    Herbert Birdsfoot was in a skit with Big Bird when they talked about the "an" family.

    I don't know about the others.
  17. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    Yes, the mysterious striped pants. Herry does always wear those pants in illustrations, and my Herry beanie babie is wearing them, but I'm not sure if Herry (as a Muppet on the show) was ever seen wearing them. We rarely see him below the chest anyway. Does he ever wear them. I remember seeing him in the end of "The Street We Live On" where the cast is singing that song and he is seen full body sitting on the stoop. He isn't wearing pants there. What is the story with those pants?
  18. GeeBee

    GeeBee New Member


    In just about every Sesame Street book with Herry from the mid-seventies to the present showed him in those pants, although at least one time, I remember that they were polka dots instead of stripes. One Sesame book that does NOT have Herry in his famous pants is "The Together Book" from 1971. Personally, I never cared for the pants; I'm glad the TV show didn't play along. But, that's just me. I even preferred it when he had a blue and furry nose. I've thought about writing some fan fiction called "The Adventures of Herry Monster When His Nose Was Blue and Furry and He Had No Pants!"

    It could work... :zany:
  19. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    If you do, you must use that full title because it cracks me up so hard. Do you remember when he had the furry blue nose?
    I wonder if (supposing Palisades makes him) the Herry figure will be made with the pants. He would be such a cool looking one with all that shaggy hair. He would be huge too I am sure. You know something weird though? Whenever we see Herry, he seems so big. I mean he is known to be this big strong monster and he looks it on the show, but when I saw him in that scene on the 35th Anniversary show I was talking about and he was full bodied on the steps, he didn't look very big at all. He just appeared to be so much smaller/shorter than he comes across from chest up. I will look at my tape again, but he was sitting next to Ernie and Bert and was around the same size as Ernie. That just did not seem right. Anyone else see this?
  20. Soul H

    Soul H New Member

    When Little Jerry and his Monotones, came to visit, weren't there only 2 Monotones instead of 3?



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