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Discussion in 'Henson Alternative' started by GelflingWaldo, Oct 31, 2006.
Oh that's AWESOME!! I will definitely be TiVo-ing it! Thanks for the info Gelfing!
Awesome--thanks for the news!
Go, Tivo, Go!
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Looks like they are using ACTUAL Muppet characters too, woot!
Check it out, these are ALL Muppet characters
(the weasel from Statler and Waldorf In The Balcony, the koala from
Animal Jam, and Joe The Armidillo...one of my personal faves)
I cant wait, but how can it be "uncensored" if its on TBS? Good to see they'll be using actual Muppet characters:
They're not actual Muppet characters. Can't see Disney allowing that. And even when they are recycling old Henson puppets (e.g. Raisin) they are performed as completley different characters, only the physical appearance is the same.
Woohoo! We saw brief clips of this at ComicCon and it was HILARIOUS! So glad that we'll be able to see the performance in it's entirety.
Puppets not characters. There's a big (and probably legal) difference.
Is anyone able to record "Puppet Up" onto a DVD and send me a copy, please?
I would very much like to be able discuss it at the same time as everyone else and not have to wait for ages for it to be shown in the UK (if ever)!
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I would appreciate it so much!
I can't wait! I would really love if they released a DVD of the special too (maybe an extended version - as two 1-hour shows will be filmed and be edited down for the 50-minute special) but I don't know how likely that would be.
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET cant wait to watch it!!!!!
Um, so Joe the Armadillo, who stole the show of the Kermit Swamp Years dvd...thats not him?
So if I used the Kermit replica in my own show, and called him "Gilbert", it wouldnt be Kermit?
As far as I can tell, a variety of the puppets used in PuppetUp are definately muppet characters, performed by some Muppet alumni. I mean, otherwise we can just have Disney employees putting their hand in real muppet puppets and have no use for signature Muppeteers or anything.
Btw, are you aware the Sesame Street characters are STILL legally called Muppets? I'd wager most fans will forever consider Fraggle Rock and Sesame Street muppet characters.
They are being very specific with this. That armadillo puppet could be playing a real estate agent called Kevin who gets his kicks by groping Paris Hilton as she goes shopping at Wal Mart (all ideas that came up in the various shows I saw in Scotland). So it is a different character. Hensons were quite keen to point this out.
The armadillo puppet was actually first used as Dooley the Armadillo in "The Animal Show". It was used as Annette in the fourth season of "Bear in the Big Blue House" and was re-used again for Joe the Armadillo on the "Kermit's Swamp Years" DVD. Now it's been in some Puppet Up! shows. I don't know who has the copyright of the puppet design, but I doubt Henson would be using it if Disney had ownership claim over the puppet (someone's lawyer would have spoken up by now).
It's kind of sad to see the word 'uncensored' on a Henson project
Brian Henson (Jim's son) said "I think my father would have loved it because of how outrageous we get. My Dad really believed in community and sweetness but the other side of him was incredibly naughty."
Take a look at Henson's work on Saturday Night Live in "The Land of Gorch" sketches. Talk about uncensored - alcohol abuse, adultery, drugs, and even a full on puppet sex scene! Jim always had some uncensored stuff.
Sadly, Sesame Street The Muppet Show and Fraggle Rock got him the trapped into only being seen for "Children's" and "Family-Friendly" entertainment. He always talked about wanting to break back into the adult world.
The shows are not excessively "dirty" and "fowl" (sometimes the audience suggestions aren't "kid-friendly"), this isn't like "South Park", "Crank Yankers" or "Jay & Silent Bob" – yes, they are for grown-ups (like The Tonight Show, Who's Line is it Anyway or The Daily Show) they're just not appropriate for a 5-year old – but I wouldn't feel awkward watching with my grandmother. They basically put the "uncensored" and "adults only" tag on the show to show this isn't like "Sesame Street", or even "The Muppet Show", and its not targeted at kids. This is sophisticated, improvised, live and grown-up humor.
I hope Puppet Up! and Late Night Buffet brings Henson puppetry back to a grown-up audience.
And they did do a very succesful run of Family shows in Scotland this summer.
So if they pull out a Frackle puppet, its not *actually* a Frackle. Ok.
Yeah, I'm sorry...I just do not consider the Muppets seperate from Fraggle Rock, non creature shop JHC or Sesame Street. I think very few if any Jim Henson/Muppet fans recognize the "Muppets" as only being Disney.
In fact I just went to Sesame Worshop.org, they seem to still call the Sesame characters Muppets. JHC is relaunching the Fraggle Franchise, and what they are no longer muppets?
I think its hillarious and pretty sad the Jim Henson Company not only sold out that which MADE them the Jim Henson Company, but all the sudden pretends the Muppets were never apart of them...going so far as to nix Kermit from Emmet Otter and other rereleases.
I consider PuppetUp Improv to be Muppets, and if they werent wed be discussing this under puppetry/Henson people.
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