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Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by OverUnderAround, Nov 1, 2006.

  1. heralde Well-Known Member

    I'm glad other people liked MFS, honestly. I wish I felt the same way, but my first time seeing it was painful and embarrassing. My personal moral is, I don't have to enjoy everything the Muppets put out, it doesn't make me any less of a fan. :)
  2. unclematt Active Member

    Couldnt have said it better myself
  3. Ilikemuppets New Member

    Whatever it's about, I just hope that Frank Oz Directs it!
  4. muppet baby Active Member

    Yes that is really what i hope I love the way that frank Oz works Oh yes i hope that he directs the next one .:) :concern:
  5. unclematt Active Member

    I highly doubt Frank Oz would be involved
  6. muppet baby Active Member

    You are probably right , but having hope never hurts :)
  7. SarahOnBway Member

    Actually it's funny you mentioned that you hoped Frank Oz would direct the Muppets again, not because it will happen (I seriously doubt that), but because the last time I watched MTM (oh, 2 weeks ago?) I noticed for the first time the drastically different humor and direction in that movie as compared to TMM or GMC, or the more current movies. For the first time in a Muppet movie there's not a lot of music softening the cuts... for example, think of the first scene in Pete's diner, when Kermit meets Jenny. It goes something like this: "My name's Kermit." "Hi Kermit, I'm Jenny." Cut to Kermit, close up: "I'm a frog." Hard cut to Miss Piggy watching Kermit and Jenny. Now IDK if it's because I majored in drama and my roommate's a film major that I notice little things like that, but it really different than previous Muppet humor ("Drinks on the house!" "What color are their hands now?").

    TMM was always my favorite Muppet Movie, but I've found that for many people it's MTM, and when I was little that was my fav as well. It's just funny to see that now that I've, you know, kind of figured out for myself how the humor in MTM is different.

    Watch it again (not like it's a chore) and let me know if you see what I mean!
  8. unclematt Active Member

    I think it would take an awful lot for him to come back. And if he does come back to Direct he would have to do Piggy and Fozzie and then whats Eric going to do. The more Eric works the better he is going to get. It might almost be detremental for Frank to come back.
  9. muppet baby Active Member

    Good point about eric.
    :) :mad: What you said is very true he does a wonderful job with miss piggy .
  10. Ilikemuppets New Member

    I know in 1999 Trank OZ has mentioned that he would like to direct the next Muppt movie.
  11. muppet baby Active Member

    that is a interesting thought about tank oz we shall see who ever it is i can't wait The muppets will always rock :) :mad:
  12. Ilikemuppets New Member

    I think Frank will show up for a movie. But Of coures Eric can work if frank does his characters. The Muppteers do all kinds of things on a movie.
  13. unclematt Active Member

    I know Eric would still work but I thinkthat it is important that these are now Eric's characters. I dont think the Muppets should keep being passed back and forth.
  14. SarahOnBway Member

    I agree. Once there's that transition to a new performer it takes some getting used to but eventually the audience is going to recognize the new performer's version of the character. It would be confusing to the audience if the performer keeps switching. Think of how we feel now when we watch the early episodes of TMS and Piggy's voice switches from Frank to Richard within the same episode at times. It's very odd and it pulls you out of it for a second. I find it odd that Frank sometimes comes back to Sesame Street even though Eric's taken over his roles.

    I also think that Eric is doing a really great job. In the few things he's done since he took over for Piggy and Fozzie in 2001 his improvement has been vast. His Piggy is terrific and his Fozzie is stronger with every appearance. He did an excellent job on Red & Green Christmas. Of all the recent Muppet replacements, Eric has the fullest of my confidences (...is that grammatically correct?). I'm much more concerned about Jerry Nelson's replacements. I like John Kennedy but Jerry has such a distinctive voice that I don't think anyone will be able to fully replace him. John's song on Red & Green Christmas was good, but it wasn't Floyd for me. (And this might be anarchy on this Barretta-lovin' forum, but Bill Barretta isn't Dr. Teeth or Rowlf to me either.) But Eric? I definitely heart him.
  15. Ilikemuppets New Member

    Well Frank never officially quit Sesame Street. They just wanted Eric so they use those characters more often. Like Caroll said, He doesn't want anybody taking over his Characters and I do noe believe tht I've seen Matt paly him One time last season.

    And it like Frank says, It's not about the voice, it's all about the character.
  16. SarahOnBway Member

    My roommate worked for Sesame earlier this year and she said that a lot of the time Matt would perform Big Bird and Caroll would dub the voice in later on. Matt used to do all of the Journey to Ernie segments, but that was cut this season, so I don't know how often his voice is heard, but I'm sure he's been "seen" quite a bit.

    And I totally agree that it's all about the character but... if a new person is introduced on a recording... it's all about the voice. Because that's all ya got.
  17. Ilikemuppets New Member

    Well, it is important to remember that you also have to stay in character while your recording. But I could see that If your only singing, though.

    Okay, I did not know that. But I can tell you with one hundred persent asurency the I did not here Matt's voice one single time, But I did miss one episode and I'm not sure if Big Bird is in that one or not.
  18. SarahOnBway Member

    I think Steve once said (and it could even be in his MC interview, come to think of it) that he was most nervous when he had to record the songs for MCC because he wasn't acting through the puppet, which is where he gets the character from. So I'm sure it's incredibly hard to have that kind of pressure on a performer. I'll reserve my full judgement until after I see a full performance.

    Did Caroll Spinney really say that he didn't want anyone taking over his characters?
  19. Ilikemuppets New Member

    Yes, Caroll did say that he didn't want anybody else playing his Characters. But he did also mention that he wanted to do Sesame Street until at least seson forty. But if he feel he can still hold that head up, he may go as lond as he physcally can do it. I wish I could find the inteview as it was posted on this site.

    I imagian that it must hvae been very hard for steve to fill Jim's shoe's of all things.
  20. muppet baby Active Member

    That is interesting sesma street is so great i love that show and i loved it as a child .
    a true classic i hope that it goes for another 30 years .

    as far as teaching children and quality enternament they do not get much better than that .
    THE BEST :)

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