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Anyone else think that D A is a bit stuck up?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by zeldazipple, Aug 11, 2006.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Actually... I really dig some of your M*A*S*H* and Muppet stuff.

    it's just I don't usually post links to my Non-Muppet stuff anywhere here.
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Oh wow, yeah thanks, I had actually forgotten about a lot of my M*A*S*H art ><

    I really need to do more Muppet art myself, because it's been so few and far between really...
  3. Kiki

    Kiki Active Member

    I'm bumping this thread... again.

    I have to ask this, am I the only one who tends to question the sincerity of some members on DA? Lately I've had people faving my whole gallery within a day, and yet they won't even add me to they're devwatch list. I don't lose sleep from it, heh, but the same thing happened when I got a premium membership ages back and I could see who my visitors were. I had people, not watchers, looking at my page daily, but they'd never :+fav: or comment or anything, it was weird. Plus, I've had one individual tell me that they're not going to watch me purely because I don't do music fanart (going back to my username).
    ALSO, a popular deviant announced that if members critique their work, they'll critique back, so my friend thought that was a fair enough deal. My friend is a great young artist, but has little hope in her work because she considers herself fairly unknown on the site. She just got a premium membership, and she wanted some feedback on her work. She only got a brief comment from the more-well known artist, and she sent a note to them asking why (because she was expecting an actual critique, not just "well done"). The person replied back, saying that her work would turn up on they're critique section of their page, and actually stated that they wanted more "professional" work shown there. I was so annoyed at this person, because they crap on and on about how much they despise snobby artists. Any thoughts?
  4. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Similar happens to me from time to time as well; I've found that every few months or so, something like this will happen to me, but I'm just assuming that these are "new" people who haven't seen my work before, and decided to favorite a bunch of stuff. And again, it's almost always only my Chipmunk stuff that people like.

    As for not receiving new deviantWATCHes, I think it's either one of two things... either these people favorite a lot of artists' work to get their attention in hopes that they'll receive the watches, or they simply use dA strictly for favorite artwork.
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Do you ever have the problem (I swear it's an error) where people favorite your work, you check it (I usually try to look at the artwork of people who favorite my stuff) and they don't actually have it? I had one guy who added me to their watch months ago, but he was never listed. Thankfully he added me again.

    Sometimes I have the opposite problem of what you stated. Sometimes the only favorites I get are FROM my watchers. Sometimes I get watchers who don't even favorite any of my stuff (presumably to get me to watch them back).

    Again my BIGGESt problem is the fact that I have so much stuff that's obscure that I get little favorites from them. Yet, when I do something more well known, I get only several more favorites. I swear people only like my for my Internet Meme pieces (i.e. Robotnik).
  6. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    One similar problem I've faced, and I too am positive it's an error/glitch in their department, is that I'll favorite something, and it doesn't actually show up in my favorites when I browse, BUT, there's a 50/50 chance it'll show up in my Random Favorites module on my profile. Go figure.

    Sometimes because of this, it's hard to tell what might have actually disappeared when you notice that your number of favorites has slightly decreased (the other day I had 155, then it went down to 153, and one I thought was removed by the artist turned out to be one of those that disappears from my favorites, but not the Random Favorites module).
  7. Kiki

    Kiki Active Member

    I agree, I know a number of people "in real life" who go on DA just to favourite stuff myself. I mean, favourites means a lot to me, and I really appreciate them, but when they :+fav: everything and don't dewatch you back... I don't know, maybe my expectations are too high. I reckon I have a few people on my devwatch who have never acknowledged my gallery, or at least never comment/fav, but again... maybe I'm just expecting too much (but hey, it does make you wonder about who sincere members are), a close friend of mine will never comment or favourite/comment on my stuff unless I somehow mention her in the comments.

    Oh yeah, I had that once on my old account. Thankfully though, on this one, so far so good.

    That's what I get, I reckon. Not always, but yeah. I have a group of really lovely watchers, but I do believe that some just decided to watch me due to my interests (or, as I said, when I got a premium account, I noticed on the visitor thingy that I have a few members that looked at my page sometimes more than once a day, and I think I watched some of them so they might've been thinking, "oh, now that she knows I've been looking at her page, I should add her". But I could be wrong here, I guess).

    Not that I'm ungrateful for faves, but I can definitely relate to you there. It often varies for me, I just looked at my gallery stats and it turns out my stuff altogether has been faved 558 times, which I'm quite happy about, actually, if not a little surprised. And, as I've probably mentioned before, the one that got the most faves (46) was an average photo of a /shoe/. It's not /terrible/, but it is over-exposed, colours are too flat... nah, doesn't make sense to me.
    I think I'm in the same boat as you, Dr.Tooth. I often get a number of people favourting my rough sketches, but it's my pencil drawings and my watercolour paintings that I wish got more recognition.Even something like this, which took me no time at all, but I'm quite happy with the end result, I just wish my more obscure stuff got acknowledged.

    Also, I gotta mention this, because I'd really like a second opinion, am I the only one who notices that so many portraits (hand-done) on DA, generally the ones that get the most faves, are traced? I'm sure I'm not, but to me it seems a little wrong, esp. if the original pic didn't belong to the person. If they must, I reckon they should at least say where they've gotten it from. And also people just uploading pics that they've found on the internet, that don't belong to them... I don't know, for an art site, it just doesn't seem right. I understand maybe adding something, if you mention the source, but lately the faves have been going to people who just upload images from another site. :/ Could be just me, but I find it... I don't know... unfair? Sort of. Ish. I just don't think it's right on a website for art, unless you at least mention the source/done in moderation. Or something like that.
  8. Kiki

    Kiki Active Member

    ^ Sorry, I just proof-read what I said towards the end of my last post and I think I needed to be more specific. I was referring to "artists" whose galleries consist of just images they've saved (eg; looked up, say, Miss Piggy on Google Images, saved an image, and then decide to uploade it onto DA), not people who *properly* edit an image and put it into a unique creation. Hope I sound a bit clearer.
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Personally, it's my own dang fault. After all, I have several Muteking pieces, but the only one people actually looked at is the one where they're being chased by the Swedish Chef, and only because he's there. I found other artworks... in fact, that was my first favorite when I came back, but it is relatively obscure... even Tatsunoko doesn't have much of that on their Website, and they animated it. Then there's that new Jacob Two-Two piece I just put up... I'd think some Canadians would get that one. I was pleasantly surprised a few times, though... I thought NO one would favorite any of my Osomatsu-kun or Tensai Bakabon (a REALLY old one from Japan.. we're talking 1960s) and I actually got a couple watchers out of that one. The problem is there's only so many Super Mario things that get submitted. I've tried to steer away from that, but did some anyway. I get inspiration from the weirdest things, which is why so many of the stuff I have is references to episodes and scenes and lines of dialogue in them. I drew the Man in the Yellow Hat from Curious George because I couldn't stop laughing at a line from the cartoon.

    Dude... I know people who just take screen grabs of stuff and claim them as their own. I've seen people post full comic book pages. I mean, there ARE photo-manipulations for jokes (Putting King Harkinian, Robotnik, and Weegie's heads on stuff). I just want people to know everything is hand drawn. Sure, the occasional drawn from reference, sometimes copying a specific pose (when it comes to Robotnik), but I NEVER just cut his head out and put it on something. There was one I posted in my Scraps I used in a Poop, though.
  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Okay, something is SERIOUSLY NOT RIGHT here, get a load of this weirdo whom I just received a Llama Badge from...


    So, he just joined this week, only has five deviations uploaded, and hasn't favorited anything... BUT, he has 26,000+ page views, 130+ points, 8,000+ Llama Badges and 180+ watchers? Who IS this guy, and why are so many people giving him such donations and watches? Matter of fact, who are ALL of these people?
  11. Kiki

    Kiki Active Member

    Yeah, I don't mind if people use a picture for reference, I think that's good, esp. if your focusing on a certain celebrity and you want to look at their traits and the like. I just find it stupid when so-called "artists" fill their galleries up with pictures when it's obvious that it's not their work. One user I know fills their gallaries up with photos of Pink Floyd that anyone could find on google images, and she has hundreds of watchers. Then they just put a filter over a number of them (as in a filter used in Photoshop, such as "sketch"), cropped them slightly, and claimed that they drew the pictures.

    What the heck? O__o He joined this week? Something is /not/ right there. he hasn't favourited anything, so therefore not as many people would check his profile, he has... 180+ watchers...? And I know about the whole Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beholder and all that jazz, but his (I'm guessing) gallery consists of 5 deviations, which are edited variations of an average and hardly imaginative photo which /anyone/ could do. And I don't know about the others, but one got /28/ favourites. -_- Something's up there.
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Uh... Some internet gag we're not hep to yet? Seems like it's a big joke... otherwise I'd be completely embittered by the fact I killed myself on 250+ piece and only have 6000+ views when this guy took something that CLEARLY came with Windows and put it through bad filters. Internet gag... I'm just writing it off as that.

    "Snoopingas usual" and "Mah Boi!" are still funnier.

    That said... about those Llama guys... I gotta start sending some of that crap out...
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Squee, I got three new watchers in the past few hours today.

    I don't believe I'm saying this, but one thing I wouldn't mind more of right now is Llama Badges... I've seen other people on dA have anywhere between 50 to 100 badges, and do less than I do, and I don't do that much on dA these days.
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    You know... I never get around to giving anyone those Llama things. Maybe I should start. I think I just might hit you first, man... That is... if I don't totally forget.

    People are REALLY flocking to my page ever since I drew that simple Phineas and Ferb thing... which is great, but I'd rather people look at the stuff I spent hours on. And the weird thing is, all these groups are coming up to me and asking to put certain pieces into their galleries. Which is great, but they never really get my best ones of those characters.
  15. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    I watched you :D.
    The fact of the matter is no one really cares as much as the artist how long you took to draw/or color lineart, all they care about is the end character. For what it is worth, even if you draw a well known character but you put some deep thought and reasoning behind the theme of the picture it seems to get just as few favs :p
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    A while back, I kept forgetting to submit my Muppet art to the JimHensonConnection group, and would be contacted by the group's owner to submit it, because someone else had already submitted them to the group favorites rather than the group gallery (safe to assume it was you, Drtooth?)

    Personally, I wasn't fond of Phineas and Ferb, but I liked what you did making it look like an old-school cartoon opening title. I really love your new Inspector Gadget outta control pic, it was awesome!

    And, as I've been saying all this time: I've uploaded four new pics in the past couple of days... three of which have so far less than 10 or views in total... the other has nearly 40 far... and iagain, it's Chipmunk-related. What did I get myself into? :rolleyes:

    BTW Drtooth, be prepared, I've got some gift art planned for you later this week.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    You got it. I gotta see if I can pull strings and get you a membership. Your muppet stuff is good. They are pretty loose though, seen some pretty lame stuff that got accepted.
  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I'm already a member of the group (and a classic SST group that I guess was closed, because it's no longer in existence), like I said again, I wasn't quite used to being in groups and kept forgetting to go ahead and submitting my art, but I've been doing better about that like today, I submitted my M*A*S*H art to an appropriate group I joined, I submitted that new Chipmunk piece to a group I belong to, and I browsed around and submitted some more recent art to groups that I don't even belong to (like my recent Happy Red Guy pic to a Cartoon Cartoon group, and an I Love Lucy pic to a Lucille Ball group).

    But thanks just the same.
  19. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I have actually thought about joining for a while now. I could at least get my stuff out there. No one on facebook really cares :p

    But I'm also not a good artist. I draw cartoons of dragons. Usually on lined paper. And I never color them in XD so they are kinda ugly. If I stray from dragons, they tend to look more cute and babyfied. (Like this really demented rabbit I draw, usually wearing a hawiian shirt lol) So I really dont know if this is a good place to upload them or not :/
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Aw, you might as well join up Sarge, after all, I eventually joined after friends of mine kept twisting my arm, holding guns up to my head, knives up to my throats, tazers up to my back... I don't know where they all got those third and fourth hands from all of the sudden... :confused:

    Besides... in all honesty, I've seen some very poor stuff on dA before... I'm sure your stuff is far better than a lot of what I've seen over the years.

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