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Anyone else think that D A is a bit stuck up?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by zeldazipple, Aug 11, 2006.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    And here I am drawing Muteking and Osomatsu-kun stuff. :p
  2. Vic Romano

    Vic Romano Active Member

    That makes sense though, Snowth. Maybe my art is just too all over the place for people to follow. The majority of my stuff is Muppet related, but my two Star Wars images get me some attention, and whenever I draw topless women, which I guess isn't enough. :o

    I am happy for your 10k page views though, I think that's awesome!

    BTW Drtooth, I love the new sig! :D
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    And your wife actually allows you to do that?

    But on a serious note, that could be Davo, but you know, sometimes you can hit little booms on dA when you least expect it; occasionally I'll still get favorites on some of my older, somewhat forgotten pics... truth be told, some of my pics are so popular and I have absolutely no clue why... two years ago I did a pic of Simon and Jeanette having a date at the movie theater that turned out ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE, and it's everywhere! People have favorited it like heck, it pops up in Google image searchs for people who saved it to Photobucket, I'll see it in fan-made MVs on YouTube... I just don't get it.

    Sometimes it takes a while for people to find you, but I do wish more people would, because you've always been such a great artist, and your work is always completely awesome.
  4. ReneeLouvier

    ReneeLouvier Active Member

    I unfortunately know EXACTLY what you mean. As a "character study" once I posted a cleaned up sketch on DA for a friend, also just to "see what happened" with it.

    Oh my goodness! That one single piece of art amassed over 1,880 views, and 64 favorites alone.

    I don't think anything else has gotten more views or favorites of all of my work!

    And no, in keeping with MC's family-friendly policy I will not be posting a link. If anyone wants to see my other work, however I will post a link to the home page of myself on DA.

    ReneeLouvier DeviantART
  5. Kiki

    Kiki Active Member

    You are so right, the amount of pageviews don't make you more or less of an artist, it annoys me that in a way DA has become a popularity contest. And I agree with you about all the points regarding digital art. I believe that traditional stuff gets overlooked, yes, but digital art is *so* broad, I'm sure lots of it gets ovelooked, it depends on context, subject matter, etc etc. I LOVE digital art personally, and when I have more time on my hands I'd love to get to know the basics, I think my style suits it.
    What I find (I guess, moreso in "real life"), is that cartooning is overlooked. I'm not one to pin myself to a certain style, but the way I draw is most definately cartoony. You see stuff from when I was really little and my influences (Loony Tunes, Disney, Nicktoons) are evident (people still say that my characters remind them of something out of Animaniacs). I do believe that this style is very underrated, and I always get people asking me over and over "uh, can't you draw realistically?" "Um, no, not very well" "OH....". It doesn't get to me, but it can be a little annoying after a while. I'm proud to be a cartoonist. When you are attempting to draw "realistically" there are so many limitations. It looks great, sure, but I do wish people would aknowledge cartoonists more.

    (Btw, I really dig your stuff Vic. :))

    That's very true, I'm actually considering that option myself. I've been trying to showcase my art as of late, actually. I'm only young, and I'm still learning like all artists, but lately I've been really inspired and motivated, I'm even considering displaying some of my art in a local gallery.I know that may sound a little self-indulgent, but I'm really determined to get it out there (yeah, as you can tell, I'm not one of those teenage girls who go on and on about how awful their artwork is and then put it on DA regardless ;)).

    Lol! And I know exactly what you mean about the fetishy stuff. x333 Or manga, though it *reeeeally* cheeses me off when people say my style is manga. I like manga, but my art is clearly western-inspired. I'll shut up now, sorry. x3 Anyway, it's true, that stuff is pro'lly the most popular on DA. I've been invited for furry groups because of my anthro pics, fer goodness sake.

    You upload some pretty sweet stuff, Dr Tooth. :D
  6. Kiki

    Kiki Active Member

    I think it's great that you have a variety in your gallery. :) But at the same time, I love how Snowthy specifically focuses on a specific subject. For me personally, my gallery is very much all over the place and... "expect the unexpected", as in I will upload one picture very different to the other. I find that many people on DA will watch eachother because of similar intrests, or if they have similar styles (for example, my username is named after a song/album, so I think when people visit my DA page they expect specifically music-related stuff and that's it), but personally I'll upload a still life photo and then a drawing the next, it's very much all over the shop, my gallery. Sometimes I wish I stuck to drawings more, even.

    Oh, for some reason I thought you were no longer on DA. :confused: Sorry about that. *Watches 'chu*
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I KNOOOOW! Gosh... I mean, years ago I did ONE INNOCENT pic of Jeanette tied to a chair, waiting for Simon to save her, and since then, I've gotten all kinds of requests from people with bondage fetishes wanting me to do more bondage art, but I always reject them.

    Then one guy I follow regularly, he's got various feet-tickling pics in his gallery... as well as some popular female cartoon characters trapped in bubbles, which apparently is fetish as well... why, I don't know. :|
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Betchya haven't encountered the fat stuff yet, huh? I have to admit... some of those guys who do that are REALLY talented. Thankfully, I'm not going to submit anyone with that.

    Anyway, seems I've hit a nice streak with This Sam the Eagle piece. Seems like I got several favorites a day since I posted it... and that was just 2 days ago.
  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah... I think I've pretty much seen it all... bondage, feet tickling, floating bubbles, fat stuff, topless, groping, "light" sex, etc...
  10. Vic Romano

    Vic Romano Active Member

    My wife is very supportive, and believe it or not, there is a significant element of appreciating the human form as art, and not purely erotic. Keeping in mind this is a family forum, I won't go into specifics or details, but she encourages me.

    How have I not been watching you? Added! :excited:
  11. Kiki

    Kiki Active Member

    Congrats! :) Yeah, I uploaded a batch last night (10+ deviantions) and I think there has been a positive response, judging by the faves/comments. I'm really grateful for having such suportive watchers.

    I totally understnad that, I'm all for artistic nude/life art, just not "artistic" *porn*.
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Lemme just say, I'm sure that a LOT of artists (myself included) draw stuff that they wouldn't show anyone else. I remember Jim Davis said that he loved to doodle random crazy things, and some things he can't publish at all. There's a line from a Youtube poop I'd love to draw (I drew one from the same poop... the Herry and Grover talking about cake), but I really don't wanna use that sorta language. And frankly, you have to learn to draw a nude figure at some point to be able to draw the human body right. It's actually much easier to draw clothing that way, since you get the drapery right.
  13. Kiki

    Kiki Active Member

    Exactly. Having a further understanding of the structure of the human anatomy helps with proportion and, as you said, how to draw clothes. I mean, even if a person's style isn't 100% realistic (I know mine's not) I still reckon learning how to draw the body and to study it's proportions is so beneficial for any artist.
    And I can see where you're coming from when you say you draw things you wouldn't show others as I can relate to that. Pretty clean compared to most things out there, but I drew a picture of these these nazi women. Now, obviously this is going to get a reaction, some worse than others, as even my friend got these impressions that the picture was about praising these characters. But that wasn't the case, of coarse. I don't support nazi's at all, but I do aknowledge the fact that it's all part of history, and it's not like I portrayed these female characters as angels or whatever, they looked pretty grotesque. Some people would know where I'm coming from, while others would avoid that sort of thing all together.

    As for coarse language, I generally don't use a lot of it in my art. I must say, I do use a number of innuendos, but an excessive amount of it foul language (esp. if it's just plain unnecessary, out of context stuff) doesn't suit my characters. Generally speaking my more random, spontaneous pictures are pretty clean, though. Funny to hear about Jim Davis though, I would've had *no* idea!
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Well, if I showed you what I mean, which I won't... (if you REALLY want to know what I mean, PM me... ) it really isn't horrible. it's one of those it sounds like he said this when he didn't deals.
  15. Vic Romano

    Vic Romano Active Member

    Kiki, am I following you on DA? I thought I was, but I didn't get any updates that you uploaded new stuff. Can you post us a link here to your page?

    You know, I've always wondered how Jim would feel knowing so much of his doodles have been published since he passed. I love them, you love them, we all love them, but a lot of them seem to be quick breezy sketches he never intended anyone to see. They're not bad, thay just don't show off how artistic and good he was.
  16. Kiki

    Kiki Active Member

    No, I don't think you're following me... *checks* nah. Here's the link: www.rock-a-little.deviantart.com :) Thanks, much appreciated!
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That's the difference between a doodle and a drawing. When I doodle, I basically make odd eye expressions... not faces... just eyes and mouths. And the odd off model cartoon or something like that. That's stuff I wouldn't show anyone because I don't care all that much about them. But doodles are very important. They reveal the basis for a creator's vision. A lot of cartoon characters (and in this case, Muppets) came off of messing around.
  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I feel the same; in rare cases, I won't refine doodles with "final drafts" if I can't seem to give them anything beyond that... that's been the cases for the origins of the characters for my old comic strip series from the early and mid 2000s... or even The Squirrely Squirrels.

    That's where evolution plays a factor... look at Big Bird for example, he first looked pretty much like one of Jim's doodles of a large, lanky lark, before he evolved into the plumb and full-headed bird we all know and love today.
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Ehh... just wondering. Does anyone ever check out my non-Muppet stuff? I have a lot of obscure and fun fan arts in there too that I'm sure you can enjoy.
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I check out all your stuff Drtooth, as I've said many times before, I like your style, and the stuff you whip up is pretty great.

    At the same time, again, it's obvious nobody cares about my non-Chipmunk art... so... I dunno... I guess I'll whip up something for my watchers in the future... been thinking about doing 80s/90s Brittany doing her "Single Ladies" bit from the squeakquel.


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