heralde said:
I get what you're saying. Personally I just think it's a comment on society in general. In the '70s women's lib was very big and a strong, spunky, humorously (but harmlessly) overbearing female like Miss Piggy was very fashionable. Nowadays, pop culture likes to bring women down and make them look like annoying divas.
It's not just that. When even Gloria Steinem (sp?) can get married after years of telling us women that men were superfluous, feminism really shot itself in the foot. I'm a moderate feminist and went with my mom to her Women's Studies class, and I must say the NOW people were strange and possibly delusional. You were ridiculed if you didn't demonize men. And that was in the 90s. I think Piggy was overbearing because she needed to defend, not women, but her own sense of worth. However, with Kermit not acting like a jerk so much anymore and the rest (at least per VMX) of the Muppets finally understanding they need her, she can afford to mellow a bit. Would we rather go back to everyone despising Piggy?
Muppetfan44 said:
Now, back to the special itself. I did think that the whole NY apartment resembled SS a little bit but I think they did that for a reason. They are trying to connect the classic Muppets to something kids already know and love; they're trying to put a little of that SS feel into the Classic Muppets so that kids can learn to love them as much as they love the SS characters. I think it's a good psychological move on the creators' part and in terms of building up the Muppets fan base, i think it will pay off in the long run.
Now that you mention it, it DOES make a lot of sense. After all, they used to be in the same universe anyway.
Someone said that Sam the Eagle needed some work but I thought he was awesome. He sounded and looked just like the Sam from the later seasons of The Muppet Show I thought
Yeah, he was a lot more accurate than in VMX.
Claire and her mom were cute, but I do think there should of been more about who they were and why they were living in an apartment building with a bunch of Muppets. I do also agree that the storyline lacked that sense of urgency
Oh, but it DID have a sense of urgency -- I felt like I wanted to strangle the little whiner for not being happy she lived with the MUPPETS 24/7!
Ilikemuppets said:
And I though that Miss Piggy was out of character. She wouldn't have been so selfish and she would have helped her friends out, too.
You mean like in TMM, where she ditches a romantic evening to talk to her agent? Or how about GMC, where she lies and runs off when discovered? Or VMX, where she leaves because she isn't going to get paid at the theater? Not putting up with "being shown her place" (so to speak) and leaving to pamper her own pride IS in character.
Scooter needs a little work in the voice department, but I believe David will hit the nail on the mark.
Yeah, it just needs some deepening maybe and a smidge more consistency, is all.
Daffyfan2003 said:
I do agree with whoever said it was out of character for Gonzo to not like flying like that when he usually enjoys doing daring stunts.
To be fair, he was getting more and more depressed about Claire.
prawnie said:
What MORE do you want him to do? Wield a sword and deliver the monologue from Braveheart?
ROFL!
I got the impression that they finally paid her... even if it was in cashews. I hope they paid her, anyway, don't wanna upset the Boss.
I can also imagine that the Boss just poofed them there.