Would you vote for Bush or Kerry?

Will you vote for Bush or Kerry?

  • Bush

    Votes: 52 44.8%
  • Kerry

    Votes: 63 54.3%
  • Nadar

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Total voters
    116
  • Poll closed .

Beebers

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MuppetsRule said:
I would have to agree with Beebers. Kerry came across as somebody who would do or say anything to get elected. His laughable goose hunting trip proved that. And he actually showed up in Green Bay and in an attempt to relate to local voters he referred to the home of the Packers as "Lambert Field" (It's Lambeau).

It is a shame though. The Democrats had an excellent chance to win this election. Bush was very vulnerable. And they ran such a poor candidate with very few ideas or substance. About the only thing he had going for him was "he's not Bush".
Oh, that goose thing was just awful. Ridiculous. And I come from a family of hunters - every time he talked about hunting he didn't know what he was talking about. And he wouldn't even carry his own goose. omg.

There's an omen which happens now and again at the Democratic National Convention and thus far has held true. The conventions always have all these balloons sitting around in netting up against the ceiling to be released when the nominee accepts the nomination. At least twice now the balloons have not come down when released - for Jimmy Carter and John Kerry. Both lost.

The fact is that nobody inside the Democratic party really thought Kerry would get anywhere and he's not held in particularly high regard in his own party. It was looking like Howard Dean all the way until the Dean Scream, which sank him like a stone. Out of all the Dem candidates in the primary field I thought Joe Lieberman of CT was the best of the lot. He's a class act and we're proud of him here. Voters don't like the New England Elite thing, the Kennedy thing, the Kerry-Heinz money thing. They come across as, Oh, let's help the little people for awhile on the taxpayers' dime so we can get our gold stars and St. Peter won't keep us waiting on line at the pearly gates. I don't like it either even though I'm from here. The Dems have also gone so far left that they've totally alienated moderates of their own party, moderate Republicans, and Independents, three groups which make up an enormous chunk of the voting populace. One analyst wrote that Bill Clinton, regardless of how one might feel about him, was as comfortable in trailer parks as he was at Park Avenue cocktail parties. He didn't carry with him that Massachusetts far-left elitism, a thing that rightly rubs people wrong in the rest of the country. And, as an aside, John Edwards is reviled in his own state, North Carolina. Anyway. It looks like Hilary vs. Rudy Guiliani in '08.

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Don'tLiveonMoon

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I'm not sure how effective it is when most of us can't tell if he's being sarcastic. :stick_out_tongue: The trouble, of course, is that there are many people who would say those things seriously. :concern: I liked Lieberman too, when he was running with Gore and on his own. I was rooting for him. Oh, well...
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MuppetsRule

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If Lieberman would have been the candidate I would have seriously considered voting for him. And Clinton, love him or hate him, did and could relate to the common person which made him very popular. Same for Reagan. It is a quality that President Bush has as well. And if people like a person they are more likely to forgive them for their mistakes. Kerry never seemed to get that. Here's a guy that owns seven houses and goes wind surfing and he expects middle-America to relate to him.
 

Bubbadog

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Beebers said:
They do not, and cannot. Don't people realize that they still hold every civil liberty? I NEVER registered my son for Selective Service because I object fundamentally to the notion. Nobody ever bothered us. He did register following 9/11 because he wanted to enlist at that point. Bench warrants my eye. You're also free to object in writing to the Selective Service registration and they'll leave you alone. They're not worried about it, get ahold of yourself. EMPLOY the freedoms available to you. Good grief, calm down everybody.

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Then explain that to a friend of mine who was arrested for not signing up. I think its like a few days in jail if they get you but all the same. ALthough my friend has been to jail a lot...


...hmmm, maybe that wasn't a good example.

No one had told me they would leave you alone if you write to them though. How about that. I learn something every day.

Anyway, it's fine with me. I registered. Jury duty could be fun. LOL :smile:
 

Bubbadog

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GelflingWaldo said:


All male citizens of America must register within 30-days of turning 18 with the Selective Service System. If you do not register, you could be prosecuted and fined up to $250,000, be put in jail for up to five years, and/or considered a felon. Registration is a requirement to qualify for Federal student aid, job training benefits, most Federal employment, as well as other jobs.

If a national emergency arises and the draft is "turned on" by congress and the president (which looks unlikely anytime soon based on what the president has been saying), males between 18 and 26 registered with the Selective Service System could be called by the draft. Although you may be called physical or moral conditions/objections could prevent you from being in combat or any military branches. If you are a male US citizen between 18 and 26 and have not registered with the Selective Service System you are breaking federal law.

The exceptions to this rule are very few and include: nonimmigrant aliens on student, visitor, tourist, or diplomatic visas; men on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces; and cadets and midshipmen in the Service Academies and certain other U.S. military colleges. All other men must register upon reaching age 18 (or before age 26, if entering and taking up residence in the U.S. when already older than 18).

Disabled men, clergymen, and those who believe themselves to be conscientiously opposed to war must register because there is no draft in effect, nor is there a program to classify men at this time. Should the Congress and the President reinstate a draft, a classification program would begin. Registrants would be examined to determine suitability for military service, and they would also have ample time to claim exemptions, deferments, or postponements. To be inducted, men would have to meet the physical, mental, and administrative standards established by the military services. Local Boards would meet in every American community to determine exemptions and deferments for clergymen, ministerial students, and men who file claims for reclassification as conscientious objectors.

For more information on this, I urge you to visit the SSS website at http://www.sss.gov/ and register. The government does crack down on this, it may not be immediate but I know some people who were late registering after turning 18 and got in big trouble. Please don't let this happen to you (or your family members). It is the law.
There you go!
Man, I really should take the time to read all the posts sometimes...LOL :rolleyes:
 

tomahawk

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Oh and don't forget... Jesse (The Body) Ventura and possibly Ahhhnold will be running in 08. With McCain, Clinton(Hillary), Rudy...
 
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