Would you vote for Bush or Kerry?

Will you vote for Bush or Kerry?

  • Bush

    Votes: 52 44.8%
  • Kerry

    Votes: 63 54.3%
  • Nadar

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Total voters
    116
  • Poll closed .

KCJ506

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Wasn't it said that if Bush is re-elected that there could be a possible draft?
 

leliebel

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What I don't understand is the system of the electoral votes.

It's practical to make predictions with, but I'm used to a system where, the guy with the most otes wins.

I heard last night, that those are called the popular votes. Which makes it sound like it's a contest for the best haircut, or something.

I can't help but worder is that's a bad translation for voix popule.

Are the electoral votes granted only on the number of people living in that state, or are there other influences?
 

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I have heard lots of rumors about the draft but Bush has repeatedly said that he has no intention of bringing it back. Let's hope that's true. I'm really worried about what his environmental policies are going to do in the next four years. I think he let a lot of dubious policies go until his second term. :concern:
Erin
 

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Don'tLiveonMoon said:
I have heard lots of rumors about the draft but Bush has repeatedly said that he has no intention of bringing it back. Let's hope that's true.
This draft issue needs to be cleared up. Last year a bill to reinstitute the draft was introduced by two . . . Democrats. The bill was overwhelmingly rejected and is dead. The military, which DOES have a say in this, does not want a draft ever again because it creates an inferior service full of people who do not want to be there. No President can on their own institute a draft, it must pass through the House and the Senate. Following 9/11 when my son was trying to enlist, I spoke with higher authorities in all branches of the service about the prospects of a draft and it just is not going to happen.

:cool:

And again, we have the power here. When bills come up we are unhappy about it's up to us to pressure the daylights out of our State representatives and our elected people in D.C. When they are bombarded by their own constituents and let know that how they're voting will cost them YOUR vote next time around, they listen. We hire them, not the other way around.
 

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leliebel said:
What I don't understand is the system of the electoral votes.

It's practical to make predictions with, but I'm used to a system where, the guy with the most otes wins.

I heard last night, that those are called the popular votes. Which makes it sound like it's a contest for the best haircut, or something.

I can't help but worder is that's a bad translation for voix popule.

Are the electoral votes granted only on the number of people living in that state, or are there other influences?
I'd explain it but I don't have time this minute. Here's a good link -

http://www.fec.gov/pages/ecworks.htm

:cool:

This post went to the new page, the last post previous page clears up the draft question.
 

GelflingWaldo

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leliebel said:
What I don't understand is the system of the electoral votes.

Are the electoral votes granted only on the number of people living in that state, or are there other influences?
Electorial Votes are based on the combined number of Senators and Representives from the state. Each state as 2 Senators, and the number of Reps. is based on population (but at least 1). So the smallest number of electors possible is 3. It is basically based on population.

The reason for it is since we are the United States of American, the states pick the president, not the people. The people vote for who they want their State to vote for, and then the electors (who represent the state) vote in the national election with all the states. It may seem a little dumb to some, but it's been there since day 1.
 

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GeeBee said:
I've been on another chat group where political discussions were banned because the debates got too out of hand. I can see that happening here at some point. But, until Phillip Chapman bans it here, I see no reason why politics can't be discussed.
I couldn't resist, but I wanted to offer my opinion on that. The reason I feel that politics does not belong on a Muppet site, with agreement that it should remain in one thread (should the subject come up) as was pointed out, is that the Muppets are not political. Yes they have lampooned politics in the past but they do not pick sides. I see watching the Muppets as an escape from stuff like politics, the real world, etc. Even when it comes to this Muppet website. But also it is the simple fact that some people can get so worked up over politics and elections that yes, it does get way out of hand. And I can see it happening here. Especially with the election going into some overtime now. There is bound to be someone who will get fussy and rant about which side is better. :sleep:
Also I would like to comment on the government control thing too. It is wild, that the government feels they can use you whenever they feel like it: draft, jury duty, etc. Although they did promise they would never use the draft again, but then there was talk that it may come back a little while ago...
Hmmm.... :attitude:
And I think it is also funny that when you turn 18, you HAVE to register for selective service or they put out a bench warrant.
I suppose being selected for jury duty isn't as bad as some other things they could take you for. At least they pay you and feed you for jury duty.
How odd things can be sometimes. :confused:
You couldn't script this stuff I don't think. LOL
 

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I think the electoral vote ought to be abolished. We are intelligent people, the popular vote reflects whom we want as president. It has happened several times that the candidate with the largest percent of the popular vote lost the election. What kind of democracy is that?
 

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Bubbadog said:
Although they did promise they would never use the draft again, but then there was talk that it may come back a little while ago...
Kindly see the last post on the page previous to this regarding the draft.

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