When you need to rant...

[Drtooth]

It sounds to me that the conservatives just can't except the fact that the country is becoming more and more liberal. Besides, the republican's talk about Democratic issues just as much as the Democrats do, so clearly this is everybody's fault.

The problem is, what measure defines conservatism anymore? Seems to me a lot of more reasonable conservatives hate being painted with the same brush of xenophobia and Nationalism liberals like to paint them with, yet aren't saying anything about it still being a major part of the party. And while I assume there are plenty of fiscal conservative talk points that are very much valid, those aren't exactly the right leaning stories that tend to pop up online.

I don't so much think the country is so much becoming more liberal so much as society is starting to realize poor treatment of others is wrong, and "conservatism" is basically being upset time is changing and what was once unacceptable has become acceptable and how their old beliefs system (that's younger than Wacky Races) is being challenged. This isn't because we've become a society of Godless heathens who want to bonk each other in the streets with anything that moves, so much as we've seen the horrifying damage those beliefs entailed. And anything that's still a problem is either ignored, dusted off as "dem stoopit libralls," or exacerbated in the name of "American Exceptionalism." No one's questioning love of country or Patriotism, but American Exceptionalism is basically pretending that we have no problems and thus don't need to fix them, and therefore the real problem is the fact anyone bringing them to light hates the country apparently. That's why cases of police brutality are shrugged off by the very same "I don't trust the government" types. Police are government agencies. I don't get why the fact they have military equipment doesn't come off as alarming to alarmists. Exceptionalism is also why we're getting "safe" history books that gloss over Slavery and the Civil War. No wonder everyone's so ticked off Andrew Jackson (a terrible president in every sense of the word) is getting rightfully kicked off the 20 dollar bill. yet, they have no problem with replacing anyone with Reagan.

But Reagan totally should be on a dollar bill. The highest denomination they have, with a picture of him flipping the bird and "In God we Trust" is replaced with "You'll never see one of these in your life, Beeeeyoooootch!!!"

If the stories that weren't trending were of the "Here's actual, valid criticism of a Democratic President," that's fine, I guess. But sounds to me like there's more stories of "WAAAAA! Libtards don't like how uptight bakeries with grown men making teddy bear wearing tu-tu cakes refuse to take business by those evil gays and risk getting a bad Yelp review because religion." Or "Totally TRUE story about Planned Parenthood we swear that isn't hyperbole and mangled facts that totally doesn't get some crazy idiot to shoot up and or suicide bomb one."

 

[MikaelaMuppet]

Well, everything went well today until the bus ride home.

My friend is a freshman in high school. Her name is Melissa.

I found out that she is marching (and playing her clarinet) in a Memorial Day parade in my hometown on Monday. She's in marching band.

Go figure. Of course, she doesn't have any issues like I do and is allowed to play any musical instrument that she wants to play.

I'm a whole bunch of mixed feelings about this (and about her) right now. I really wish that I could walk in her shoes right now and play a musical instrument like her and I also wish that she could walk into my shoes and not be allowed to play any musical instruments at all.

 

[BlakeConor14]

Sorry to ask but why aren't you allowed play musical instruments

Well, everything went well today until the bus ride home.

My friend is a freshman in high school. Her name is Melissa.

I found out that she is marching (and playing her clarinet) in a Memorial Day parade in my hometown on Monday. She's in marching band.

Go figure. Of course, she doesn't have any issues like I do and is allowed to play any musical instrument that she wants to play.

I'm a whole bunch of mixed feelings about this (and about her) right now. I really wish that I could walk in her shoes right now and play a musical instrument like her and I also wish that she could walk into my shoes and not be allowed to play any musical instruments at all.

 

[MikaelaMuppet]

Sorry to ask but why aren't you allowed play musical instruments

It's okay. I'm not allowed to play musical instruments because I have sensitivity issues and I am very sensitive to sounds.

 

[BlakeConor14]

Ok

 

[Pig'sSaysAdios]

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/19/iggy-pop-jim-jarmusch-stooges-gimme-danger-cannes-2016

This kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Older famous musicians complaining about modern music often comes off as a bit pretentious. Also it comes off as, well, an old guy complaining about 'kid's music today' if you know what I mean.
Also I feel like it's potentially hurtful to a lot of musicians who look up to him.

 

[Drtooth]

Is exactly how I feel about modern cartoons and 90's kids.

To be perfectly honest, there's a lot of sides I can take with that sort of thing. There's a generational/nostalgic myopia for sure. There was always teenybopper pop music (at least since the 50's) just as there was some actual good stuff. It's like when they said "movies were better in my day" and they bring up examples that always trend on critics "best ofs" lists, when they forget casually B-movies that aren't even good from a "So Bad it's Good" angle. There's always trash and art. We just happen to remember the art, unless the trash is that freaking bad that it's unforgettable.

And the thing is, modern musicians don't have the same exact experiences that the older ones have. Art is all about life experience, and you can't have the same exact product with different voices having different lives. Even then, why would you want the same thing? You either get complaints that such and such is too different from such and such or complaints that such and such is too similar and they'd rather have the original they liked when they were younger.

On the other hand, while I can't say all modern music is horrible, there isn't much that's easily accessible that I actually have liked. Some of it has to be scoured out, and that's on the part of no one buying CD's anymore...heck, no one downloading MP3's anymore and going to these odd internet radio sites. hat effects music in more ways than we think. Gone are concept albums because why buy an album when there's like one or two good songs, and often times when the "artist" in question is a one hit Wonder?

 

[Sgt Floyd]

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/19/iggy-pop-jim-jarmusch-stooges-gimme-danger-cannes-2016

This kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Older famous musicians complaining about modern music often comes off as a bit pretentious. Also it comes off as, well, an old guy complaining about 'kid's music today' if you know what I mean.
Also I feel like it's potentially hurtful to a lot of musicians who look up to him.

I'm sorry but where did he ever say he hated new music? I read that article multiple times and I'm just not following it? It sounded more like he hated the fact that bands today can 'get rich quick' rather than putting in the time and effort of bands of the past, that music today can be produced perfectly with no effort using computers. Which he's honestly right.

I just woke up so maybe im missing the point of the article (but to be fair, it was very poorly written and probably just clickbait)

 

[D'Snowth]

I could make the same complaint about producers who turn to the internet to put content out. On the one hand, there's no limitations to creativity on the internet, so there's no having to change things up to please corporate networks who only want to reel in big numbers and big bucks, and if they don't get either, they'll go ahead and put the kibosh on the project whether the creator/showrunner wants to or not.

It's easy to make a living off YouTube, and a lot of people do it . . . but, there's really no room for originality on YouTube, or the internet in general. I mean, you look at all of the partner channels that get promoted out the wazoo on YouTube, and what do you see? Unboxing channels, top 10 channels, makeup tutorial channels, maybe an occasional Let's Play or review channel. Similarly, but not quite the same case, out of the hundred and thousands of webcomics out there, which ones are the most popular ones that get all of the traffic and attention? Westernized manga, stolen video game sprites, and LGBT comics.

Now, does anything that Iggy Pop says in that article hold any merit? Perhaps. As far as music goes, it seems like half of today's most popular songs and artists are those who "got rich quick" on the internet. Walk the Moon? Rachel Platten? Even Justin Bieber in the beginning? All got rich and famous with the internet and computers. Heck, in the cast of Bieber, his mom put videos of him singing on YouTube, Usher somehow found them and signed him to his label, and now he's the biggest name is music today. . . . that's quite a leap compared to many other artists out there who worked and struggled to get to where they are today.

 

[fuzzygobo]

Iggy (he and I share the same birthday, lucky me) was always regarded as a pioneer of Punk, even if the Stooges never sold many records.
It can be interpreted as sour grapes, that bands like the Stooges, and peers like the MC5, Amboy Dukes (all out of Detroit, by the way) never had anything resembling a hit (The Duke's "Journey to the Center of your Mind", featuring Ted Nugent, came closest). But their influence reached farther than any chart action.
He seems to offer some words of caution, "If you're not careful, you can mess your brain up as bad as I did!" Part of the allure of starting a rock band was to get laid, get stoned, get laid some more, play a few gigs, get rich (so you can get laid and stoned some more) and MAYBE hear your song on the radio. At least part of the deal worked out for Iggy.

Even though it won't go Platinum anytime soon, The Stooges' album "Fun House" is still a nice mix of garage grunge, acid rock, and Motown. Worth hunting down.