• Welcome to the Muppet Central Forum!
    You are viewing our forum as a guest. Join our free community to post topics and start private conversations. Please contact us if you need help.
  • The Muppet Show
    The must-see event of the year is here! Let us know your review of The Muppet Show special starring Sabrina Carpenter now streaming on Disney+.
  • Sesame Street Classics on YouTube
    Full episodes of classic Sesame Street have arrived on YouTube. See the latest releases and join the discussion.
  • Sesame Street debuts on Netflix
    Sesame Street Season 56 has premiered on Netflix and PBS. Let us know your thoughts on the anticipated season.
  • Back to the Rock Season 2
    Fraggle Rock Back to the Rock Season 2 has premiered on AppleTV+. Watch the anticipated new season and let us know your thoughts.
  • Sam and Friends Book
    Read our review of the long-awaited book, "Sam and Friends - The Story of Jim Henson's First Television Show" by Muppet Historian Craig Shemin.
  • Jim Henson Idea Man
    Remember the life. Honor the legacy. Inspire your soul. The new Jim Henson documentary "Idea Man" is now streaming exclusively on Disney+.
  • Bear arrives on Disney+
    The beloved series has been off the air for the past 15 years. Now all four seasons are finally available for a whole new generation.

What happened to Shurlock Hemlock?

Cookie fan

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 10, 2006
Messages
151
Reaction score
2
Anyone out there knows why his character was retired? I enjoyed his sketches as a kid, and his song "X marks the spot" was one of my favorites. Was this character controversial in some way that I don't know about or probably he didn't appeal to kids? Egad! Seems we have a mystery here.:wink:
 

SesameStreetFan

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 5, 2006
Messages
62
Reaction score
1
I think Sherlock's absence on the show these days has a lot to do with 2 things.

1. The fact Jerry Nelson doesn't do a whole lot on the show anymore due to health reasons. He only performs the Count now once or twice a season. All his other charachters Simon Soundman, Herry Monster, Mumford, Biff, Fat Blue, Farley etc. are either only seen in inserted material from several years back, or have been written out of the show.

2.Another reason is because of all the newer charachters the show seems to focus on now. The writers seem to think they have more preschool appeal, and your'e less likely to see a storyline revolve around our old classic friends then you were in the 70's 80's and even 90's. Sad but true

The best thing is, we have 20+ years of Sherlock memories, and hopefully he will be on the DVD set, coming next month.
 

Cookie fan

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 10, 2006
Messages
151
Reaction score
2
Yeah, its like they just got rid of Sherlock just like Herbert Birdsfoot. Pity... but as you said, we can hope for that greatly anticipated SS old school DVD.
 

Drtooth

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 16, 2002
Messages
31,717
Reaction score
6,713
SesameStreetFan said:
1. The fact Jerry Nelson doesn't do a whole lot on the show anymore due to health reasons. He only performs the Count now once or twice a season. All his other charachters Simon Soundman, Herry Monster, Mumford, Biff, Fat Blue, Farley etc. are either only seen in inserted material from several years back, or have been written out of the show.

2.Another reason is because of all the newer charachters the show seems to focus on now. The writers seem to think they have more preschool appeal, and your'e less likely to see a storyline revolve around our old classic friends then you were in the 70's 80's and even 90's. Sad but true
There is another reason:

The writers or the performers of any given old character got tired of performing and or writing for the character. There is just so much matereal you can write for some before they get to be routine. Certain characters on the show nowadays have the same problem with being routine, but they are more popular, and the performers didn't grow tired of them yet.

And another thing... am I the only one who doesn't care they got rid of Herbert Birdsfoot? I recal hearing Jerry got sick of the character.
 

BEAR

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 21, 2005
Messages
7,368
Reaction score
35
I'm sure we'll see some of the good Sherlock on the upcoming DVD release. It is atleast nice to see that he made the box cover!
 

minor muppetz

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2005
Messages
16,097
Reaction score
2,673
BEAR said:
I'm sure we'll see some of the good Sherlock on the upcoming DVD release. It is atleast nice to see that he made the box cover!
What do you mean? He is not on the box cover. After I saw this line, I checked the threads on the set to see if an updated cover has been posted, but I didn't see any updates to any threads about the set.
 

BEAR

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 21, 2005
Messages
7,368
Reaction score
35
minor muppetz said:
What do you mean? He is not on the box cover. After I saw this line, I checked the threads on the set to see if an updated cover has been posted, but I didn't see any updates to any threads about the set.

Sorry, Minor. My mistake. I honestly thought I remembered seeing him on the box. I guess he's not. I did see him in a picture for one of the ads I saw though. Sorry for the confusion.:embarrassed:

I still think he will probably be on the DVDs.
 

mikebennidict

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2004
Messages
3,700
Reaction score
7
Drtooth said:
There is another reason:

The writers or the performers of any given old character got tired of performing and or writing for the character. There is just so much matereal you can write for some before they get to be routine. Certain characters on the show nowadays have the same problem with being routine, but they are more popular, and the performers didn't grow tired of them yet.

And another thing... am I the only one who doesn't care they got rid of Herbert Birdsfoot? I recal hearing Jerry got sick of the character.
I highly doubt they're gonna retire a character for those reasons.
 

BEAR

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 21, 2005
Messages
7,368
Reaction score
35
No, I don't mind them canning Herbert. He was only on the show for a short time anyway. The reason he was there was to replace Kermit when he was away. Then when they put Kermit back in, Herbert went out. Another reason for him leaving was because he was so dull. There was nothing interesting about him. I for one am not missing the Birdsfoot.
 

minor muppetz

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 19, 2005
Messages
16,097
Reaction score
2,673
I believe I have read about a quote from Jerry Nelson somewhere were he said that Jim Henson and Frank Oz didn't care too much for the character, and their characters normally appeared with him in sketches. I think thats why he was taken off.
 
Top