MeepMeepBork
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Ooh! Imagine the Electric Mayhem covering 'Great Balls of Fire' with Jerry Lee Lewis as Floyd?
True- this does make it hard for the adult Muppets fan to maintain things like dignity and respect- lol. But you have to admit that generally people are gonna lump The Muppet Show in with Sesame Street and regard it on that level. It's the same argument as saying the Looney Tunes cartoons were really made for adults, but yet kids are probably the largest audience group for the cartoons. This same argument carries over to comic books for that matter. For mediums that have been associated with children over the years, it's hard for some to accept when those mediums (cartoons and comics) are used to tell stories geared at older audiences.One misconception that bothers me is the idea that the Muppets (and all puppets) are somehow religiously-based or that the Muppet Show branded characters were geared for younger viewers. The Muppets, and all of Henson's work, have always been inclusive. It's weird reading YouTube comments from people concerned about Carl eating bunnies. Jim would not only have loved that bit, he also performed many just like it. And sure the Muppets have had many Christmas specials like most other branded entertainment, but the writers and performers have always come from all walks of life and the Muppets have never been proselytizing church puppets. I'm certain the new film will portray classic muppety goodness for all types of people and will set the brand apart from both Sesame Street and the edgy Henson Alternative humor. The Muppet Show gang is that something special between.
Well, in this case, I think the reasoning was not so much because Alice Cooper was on The Muppet Show, though they probably were just making a joke that since the show is generally aimed at children (or at least marketed that way)- that Alice Cooper must be okay if he's going to be on the show. However, I think the comment was probably brought up more so because in the '70s, he kinda was viewed as the Anti-Christ or something along those lines because of his subversive music and so forth- but in recent years, Vincent Furnier (Alice Cooper's real name) has become a Christian and so now he's definitely not the Anti-Christ or in league with him, etc. Yet the Alice Cooper persona persists as his alter ego. I've read that Alice Cooper even teaches a Sunday School class at his church now- wow, that sounds like it'd be an interesting class.The only time I got the religious vibe was on one of those VH1 "I Love..." series and they were talking about Alice Cooper and him being "the Anti-Christ"... but then he did an episode of TMS, and they were like "Oh wait, he's on The Muppet Show, so he CAN'T be the Anti-Christ."
That reminds me! I hate when people think the only Muppets that exist are Muppet Show Muppets; Kermit, Fozzie, Gonzo, etc. (Ex. "Grover's not a Muppet. He's from Sesame Street!")Another thing I hear people claim is that Jim's career BEGAN with Sesame Street--AGAIN, NOT TRUE! The start of his career predates Sesame Street by 15 years, with Sam and Friends, The Jimmy Dean Show, The Ed Sullivan Show, and numerous commercials.
I know, even Nostalgia Critic got his facts mixed up when he said the show was "put together by puppeteer legends Frank Oz, Jim Henson and a few others."A lot of people I meet seem to claim that JIM created Sesame Street--WRONG! Though Jim and his associates did indeed design, build and perform the many puppet characters that populated Sesame Street, the show was actually CREATED by Children's Television Workshop (CTW, now Sesame Workshop).
Indeed.That reminds me! I hate when people think the only Muppets that exist are Muppet Show Muppets; Kermit, Fozzie, Gonzo, etc. (Ex. "Grover's not a Muppet. He's from Sesame Street!")
*shows up wearing blonde wig* Yeff?JUST A MIFF!
I knew that was gonna happen! I totally asked for it!*shows up wearing blonde wig* Yeff?
Aye! And I'm pretty Miffed about myself!Some people still believe that Cookie Monster has given up cookies for good and became a Veggie Monster! THAT WAS JUST A MIFF!