The WWE: does it get any worse than this garbage?

[frogboy4]

Originally posted by sarah_yzma
i only watch certain shows...for example here's sarah's TV week


Monday: only if i'm bored
Tuesday: Smallville, if i have time
Wednesday: Enterprise
Thursday: CSI and Without a Trace (a fine show)
Friday: Whose Line
Saturday: Ed Sullivan and Maximum Exposure (if anyone has seen this show PLEASE tell me! i think it is awesome)

and usually i'll stay up to watch Jay Leno's monolouge and whatever little thing he has afterwards, it's usually pretty funny!

Sarah

Ooh! You watch CSI and Without a Trace too. Very cool shows. That and the Law & Order programs are my faves. Smallville is great too, but I got hooked on 24 this year.

 

[sarah_yzma]

hmm 24....i've always heard it was a good show but i could never find it!!! shows how good i am at finding things

Sarah

 

[frogboy4]

It's Tuesdays on Fox opposite Smallville. I just got hooked in. Didn't watch the first season, but my ex has it on DVD so I'll probably borrow it. Can't wait until the Muppets come out on Fox! Anyone heard anything.

 

[sarah_yzma]

*sighs* nope...sure wish i had...

Sarah

 

[Luke]

Cory & The Frogboy

Originally posted by beaker
Exactly. Sadly the WWE tries to continually aim for the 12-17 crowd...that was great in the 80's/to mid 90's...but when they went exposive over the top adult angles(porn stars, death, etc) that's just way over the line.

Once again Cory, you need to understand things before assuming them. The WWE definitely does not target the 12-17 demograph anymore - that was back in the late 80's/early 90's when the shows were more suitable for kids. As their viewing figures began to drop as kids got older and turned into teens, then adults they changed the shows to be more suited to their age groups. Thats why the pace changed in the 90's with the whole Stone Cold/Rock 'Attitude' era (as they became teens) and then changed again to 'WWE' as they've become adults. It's all about keeping an audience group - very clever stuff. It is fair to say that the WWE does put shows out that might attract a slightly younger age group (hence the action figures) but the compilation ones that air at earlier times (at least over here) are well edited to take out a lot of the more controversial stuff that happens in the later shows like 'Smackdown' and 'Raw'.

I have to agree with you on the actual content of the shows - the more adult plotlines aren't really working as the wrestling style is a lot more technical and doesn't really adapt to a stupid comical plot. Also the WWE/WCW merger was a good bussiness move (getting rid of the competition) but it wasn't great they got landed with extra wrestlers, staff and facilities. The people behind the WWE have a hard job to do - wrestling is evergreen, things go up and down. Just like Henson they have to find a way to continue through the good and bad.

As Jessica said, MTV doesn't just cater to the 'Tween' groups and isn't their main demograph. The only time 'Tweens' really watch them is after-school and at weekends (timeblocks with shows like TRL, Becoming, Wannabee, Making The Video) and they do get a lot of advertising revenue but the main demograph would i guess be 16-30 who watch the more lucrative evening shows like WWE and Osbournes. I don't really see a problem with Wrestling on MTV - they both share the same market so it's good business sense.

 

[FellowWLover]

Originally posted by frogboy4
Do you ever watch MTV?

I watch a lot of MTV actually. I know that TRL may popular with some "tweens", but rather, from what I can gather at school, it is more the 7th and 8th graders that are into it. They are about 12 or 13... not "tweens" unless Parents magazine is just wrong. LOL

As Luke said, MTV carries a lot of shows for the teen into college market... Real World, Road Rules (and all the challenges in between), Soroity Life (which I got sucked into, shame on me), Becoming, Cribs, Flipped, and of course the whole Spring Break thing. Some tweens may watch those shows, but they are really meant for an older age bracket. I personally was a little dismayed to learn that our junior high kids were tuning in, but third and fourth graders? Very few, at least for now... and thank God, IMO.

 

[Luke]

Ooooooh spring break ? Was that the one where they had all the girls in bikinis dancing on beaches and things ? Or was 'The Lick' or 'The Grind' ? Classic programming anyway - i enjoyed that !

Yeah i would think it's mostly the 12-16 year olds who are the targets for the after school shows like TRL, not so much the younger ones but then again, there is some blurring between the kids at the end of the 'tween' market and the kids at the start of the 'teen' one so it's a pretty common assumption to make that a degree of 9-11's will end up watching it, especially if they have older siblings. The real money is obviously with the teens though and all the adverts for Coke, Pepsi, Nike etc.

The other thing i forgot to mention about wrestling on MTV is that it's probably cheaper for MTV to show that in the evenings rather than run music videos and pay the rights individually for each one - with Wrestling they've just gotta buy the license to take x amount of shows seeing as the WWE produces all their own stuff in-house. I guess to an extent it's kinda the same why they are starting to run a schedule more like a regular TV station with shows like 'Osbournes'.

 

[frogboy4]

You are splitting hairs, but - yes - a lot of tweens tune in to MTV along with preteens and teenagers. It's the tween and preteen market that likes Britney Spears music and TRL- not really teenagers. Whatever you want to call it - the station focuses on the 8-18 age group IMHO. That is their biggest demographic because that particular age group is always home. Most teenagers are out driving around and meeting up with thier friends. I would say they don't even cater to the 20 something market except for the hours between 2 and 4 AM. Maybe the intelligence level of people has dropped in the last few years, but I didn't know any college student at my school that watched cribs etc. Maybe it's an art school thing. We could give less of a flip where J-LO lives. But preteen girls do.

I definitely feel that wrestling is geared to kids. Call is Smackdown or whatever you want. Just because they add some boobage to the show, doesn't mean they don't still focus on the younger viewers.

 

[sarah_yzma]

Originally posted by frogboy4


boobage

hehe is that a word????? just checking! it struck me funny!

Sarah

 

[frogboy4]

Ah, boobage is a word created during a discussion on how flat chested the Miss Piggy figure was. We debated about the proper amount of boobage...he he he. I just love that word for some reason.