here I go againSkeet said:I'm just wondering if half of u have seen the movie yet? Just because some of u r not christian that doesn't mean u need to tear the movie or everybody else down. I'm very sorry if u don't believe in Him but we have a choice. it's not like we are robots with out a choice. Yes it does hurt him to see other people going the wrong way but he made us that way. I'm not trying to say you can't have an oppinion in this movie but it seems to me the only reason you are putting it down is because it's christian and true. It's history. not something that was made up. Think about it how did we even get here. if their is no god but man how did u end up here? or if we evolved from Monkeys! wouldn't of all the monkeys evolved? I guesse i'm just trying to make u think. Why am i here? i'm not trying to force salvation on anybody God doesn't even do that so do i have the right to. but what i am trying to do is make u c it our way. this is what we as christians believe. If u don't agree that's absolutely fine w/me.
Well said. Beautiful.leliebel said:here I go again
I had a discussion like this a while ago, and it can only end in a dead end, two to be exact. Namely too you go exists without question. Grass is green water is wet and god exists. To me it's a possibility, I think the bible isn't meant to taken literally word for word. It's written by humans, written word can not fathom everything that is, and it's outdated. I'm sorry this is my opinion, you can't argue with it. You will never be able to convince me that god exist 100% certain and I will never be able to convince you that god might not exist.
If god exists, I don't think he would be dissappointed in me, just because I don't believe in him. I try to be a good person because I think I owe it to everyone on this planet, and not because it might get me into heaven. I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
I would like to make one think clear though, a movie is always an interpretation. Don't underestimate the power of manipulation and indoctrination, it's very dangerous.
And I'm sick and tired of people trying to make me see things THEIR WAY! It's very different from offering another possibility it's trying to control people because you think your way of thinking is the only right one.
I hope I haven't upset people too much by this, but I had to let it out.
And I choose to believe that the movies Michael Moore puts out are nice fairy tales as well.tomahawk said:O.K. so you say the story is real. Prove it. And the bible doesn't count. It was written by man and translated hundreds of times by different men. As far as I'm concerned it's a nice fairy tale.
the problem is not with what people believe, but what peolpe try to force other people to believe.MuppetsRule said:And I choose to believe that the movies Michael Moore puts out are nice fairy tales as well.
The point is, I respect the fact that you choose not to believe that Jesus Christ was crucified and rose three days later so those that do believe should have eternal life in heaven.
Why can't you respect those that have a belief in Christ without us having to prove it to you?
1. That's great but your contraditing yourself at 2 and 5.Skeet said:1. I wasn't trying to get everyone to believe what i believe and i'm sorry that i made it sound that way.
2. How can i prove that God is real. For one by the miracles that i c him performing even today. and by faith. From what i believe man did write it physically but God gave them the words to write it.
3. If u don't believe in that i'm fine with that i guesse i just really wanted u to know what i believe.
4. one question! Y is it that Christians get more picked on then Homosexual or any of that kind of stuff. Then again God said it wasn't going to be easy we were going to be persecuted just like he was. So i'm pretty prepared to handle what i am going to be getting. Don't take me wrong i just have this thing for talking about God and the Word but i'm not trying to get u guys mad but i probably am.
5. It is my job to take the gospel to everywhere. Even though u don't really care and u know the basics of the bible it's still my job.
6. For me it just a whole lot easier to go through life with Jesus step by step with me then alone.
I don't think that what Skeet was saying was that it was OK to pick on homosexuals. I took it that when a particular race or gender, etc. is picked on or shown prejudice that it is widely seen as unacceptable but yet the tone of this thread is that those of us that consider ourselves followers of Christ are totally wrong for believing in Him. Just show us Christians the same respect that you would show anybody else. We should not have to feel ashamed that we are Christians.leliebel said:4. Dare I even ask, why homosexuals should get picked on in your eyes? Please don't answer that or I might not take you serious in the future. I really don't get what the big deal is, they're not hurting or "corrupting" anybody.