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The grand MC exodus begins...

Luke

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I think you are kidding yourself really Mike. What would help things here is that if the root cause of the problem were solved - ie:- the site visibly being run in a responsible and trustworthy manner with decisions being made in both the fans and Muppets interests and no hint of anything else (and perhaps even, some visible accountability for those decisions) then people whether they be new or old would have no reason to complain, leave or do anything but enjoy the site. Methinks you might consider that one before beginning to blame anybody else ?
 

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Originally posted by grail
...there are times i think the ONLY reason i get any respect is because i've got over 1000 posts. the board is elitist, no denying it.
Heh, ya know that is a funny little thing...

There have been more than one occasion recently where I could have been totally bashed for my opinions (which is not uncommon around here, but that's another story). I am nearly positive I got the respect I deserved merely because I've got the word "senior" over my name. Funny how that works out.

I hate fighting, especially on here, but seriously folks, don't be afraid to speak your minds, even if it is to one of the sad people with over 1000 posts (I'm not saying these people were necissarily holding back, but it just seemed like they were to me..). We're all equal. We are all just Muppets. :smile:

-Matt
 

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Oooh! Pick me!

I'm holding back! I've been holding back this whole time! >< You senior members intimidate my poor little 40 something post standing. But I've already gone through this, and so I won't do it again.

Yes, this board IS elitist, but y'know what? EVERY board is elitist. There are some boards where I have tons of respect, just because I've been there since day one. And then a newbie will appear, and y'know, we'll be friendly to them. We'll welcome them, tell them to have a good time, blah, blah, blah, but then we'll mostly ignore them, because I mean c'mon! They're a newbie! They couldn't POSSIBLY have anything good to say, right?

So yeah, I don't blame ye guys for paying more attention to your buddies here. That's what I normally do at other boards, I don't give newbies much attention, it'd be hypocritical of me to preach otherwise. And at least you guys are friendly! I've been to some boards where they practically have intiation for newbies, and treat them like dirt. And it's a freakin' MESSAGE BOARD! >< I swear, some people just don't have lives so they live it through the net (like me! Nah... I'm supah coo'. BOOYA! XP)

So yeah, this had absolutely NOTHING to do with the original topic. Carry on with your conversation! (Tap dances out)

^_^ Debo
 

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I dunno about the rest of us nasty, raging seniors but usually my criteria for responding to someone is that they've said something that deserves a response. I've been here ages and half the seniors are newbies to me - if you people think i look at a post mortem of how many posts someone has made or when they joined before i hit the reply button or construct my reply accordingly then you're sorely mistaken. I guess the newbies might feel left out of 'certain threads' but regarding specifically those, you can't expect to join a class and pass the exam in the same day - you have to learn the subject first.

I can't even be arsed to get out of bed sometimes - you really think i bother about cr*p like that ?
 

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I've been here over most of the summer, but never before that time. I have never felt unwelcome, or that my comments were unwarranted. I did make sure of a few things before I jumped into the posting game.

First, I made sure to read any and all FAQs. Second, I made sure to read as many prior posts as I could (including hundreds of Ask Ken posts.) And third, I tried to make sure that my posts had some type of substance as well as potentially adding humor where possible.

I'm definitely not a senior member, though I've been here longer than some who have that title due to their constant posting. However, I have found an enjoyable group of people here both old and new who share many common interests that happen to meet up at the Muppets.

I was drawn here because of Palisades, I am now probably going to be spending more time at their new board, but I definitely am not going to abandon this place.
 

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Okay, okay, okay...

This is why I don't post that often. -_- Cuz somewhere down the line I'd say something stupid that would come back and bite me in the butt.

Luke, I dunno if your post was directed towards me, but looking around at the other posts, I'm gonna assume it was. (But I'm also assuming that it wasn't all directed towards me, cuz there were other posts, but still, I feel the need to say something anyway)

Firstly, I'm sticking by my statement that ALL boards (not just this one) are all at least a little bit elitist. Secondly, the "Nasty, raging seniors" ... ??? I called you guys friendly. Sure, I said I was a little bit intimidated by you guys, but I'm initimidated by A LOT of people. I can't just go "Be no longer scared of people" and POOF! There it is, but I still think you're all a friendly bunch.

Next, okay, so I was wrong when I said that you're (not just YOU, it's the royal you) most likely to reply to your friends posts. I didn't necessarily mean it that way, but it was definitely worded that way. I do think it's easier to reply to a post by one of your friends, but I'm sure most, if not all, simply reply to posts that they find interesting and deserve a reply. And it's good that you don't just look to see who's a senior or not, because some people (not necessarily here, I mean at other boards too, guys) do. I'm serious, a lot of people actually look at that to decide who's worthy to reply to and who's not.

Anyhoozles, I hope I set some things straight! I don't wanna fight, I just wanna love. Love, guys. Looooooooooove!

^_^ Debo
 

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Debo,

It wasn't directed at you - LOL - it was more of a comment at the whole thread. I get what you are saying but sometimes people are a little too quick to jump on the eltist thing and it's not always the case.
 

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I have to agree with Luke. I've been at MC for 4 years. I was within the first 20 to sign up here when we moved, and I only have some 4XX posts under my name. If you have 2000 or 20 posts it's all pretty much the same to me because as Grail and Matt have pointed out they've been here 5 months and are considered seniors while others have been here for years and have moderatly few posts. Some have been here longer than me and post very rarely. As for givign someone respsct because of that number, believe it or not, but a few of us here DO think your entitled to your opinion wether we may agree with it or not. So it concerns me lately when I see a number of posts to old and new people from both old and new people saying things like "well, just leave", ".....then don't post on this board" and have even seen someone post asking if a moderator can kick someone out. I've seen this a lot lately and quite frankly it's what's made me the most uncomfortable on this board. In my opinion, that's just not cool. Again it doesn't matter how big that number is under someone's name, they deserve at least a little respect and equally they should treat others with a little respect. I'm sure I'm not the only one whose noticed this? So one people talk about leaving...well, I can understand. Strangley I don't think a lot of the leaving has to do with the "day 9" stuff. but hat's just me. I could be wrong. Anyway, here's to better days ahead. Now I'm goingot go make lunch.

--Matt
 

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Hiya,

I don't know how long I've been around, but at the old boards I was FOZZI3B3AR, came here as such and finally got the screenname you see now (which I wanted at the OLD boards).

I think I've only ever been jumped on one time by a mother who was responding to something I said about the degradation of television and how "some" mothers just sit their kids down in front of the tv to babysit them while they do housework...and she thought I meant all stay-at-home moms. Then, someone didn't believe me about how long I performed Muley once, but that's okay...one of those 'you have to see it to believe it' deals, I'm sure.

Over all, I can't figure what sets some people off. Opinions are just opinions, and everyone is entitled to them, so I can't figure why anybody gets into heated discussions over ANYTHING...especially Muppets. Disagree, sure--I've disagreed with the best who've also disagreed with me (and sent me stink bombs via postal service); but over all, those same people are still my MC friends.

I've said it a thousand times (well, not really, cause I haven't been at the Central's forums as often as I used to lately), but I still think that MC Forum has the best diversity of opinions, ideas, creativity, cultures, and most importantly people.

I love everyone here, especially my best Muppety friends, and they all know who they are cause we do lots of conversing and playin' on the net. I won't call names cause I'll forget somebody for that second.

But, hopefully everyone will start being happy again and be friends and forget whatever hurt them before.

Just remember:

FOZ loves ya! :wink:
 
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