Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

[ConsummateVs]

Why? He really is a nothing character that anyone could play. Even if he wasn't recast and just disappeared how many people outside of hardcore fans would even notice?

I know that anyone could play him (because he hardly ever speaks), but I still don't want him to be retired. And no, he's not the most popular character, and I definitely don't think he's overrated, either. If anything, Animal is overrated.

 

[D'Snowth]

I never thought of lips as a member of the EM why even clifford has done more with the electric mayhem.

It's been so long I forgot all about Clifford.

Clifford was cool alright, but looking back on it now, I feel like he really didn't serve too much of a purpose either, other than to give Kevin Clash a signature character within the Classic Muppets - which is all well and good, but it seems like whenever a character is created specifically to give a performer something to do, that character just doesn't work in the long run; like when Annie Sue became Louise Gold's signature TMS character: she faded back into the background shortly afterwards. Matter of fact, in hindsight, Clifford seemed very much a product of 90s subculture - unless he could stay with the times like the rest of the EM was able to, I don't think I could have seen Clifford standing the test of time had the Muppets done better to stay in the public eye during the 2000s and New Tens.

 

[Oscarfan]

I never thought of lips as a member of the EM why even clifford has done more with the electric mayhem. But on the show (2015)he actually felt part of the group

Lips - a whole season and movie with the Electric Mayhem
Clifford - one TV special

Yup. That makes sense to me.

 

[DarthGonzo]

Lips - a whole season and movie with the Electric Mayhem
Clifford - one TV special

Yup. That makes sense to me.

He spoke a lot more in that one special than Lips did in 20+ episodes and a movie...

 

[Daffyfan4ever]

Lips - a whole season and movie with the Electric Mayhem
Clifford - one TV special

Yup. That makes sense to me.

Well, we want to give Clifford credit too. He hosted Muppets Tonight! for two whole seasons, so he's got Lips beat there.

 

[D'Snowth]

And was a supporting character in MFS, and wasn't he also part of the JHH cast?

 

[ErinAardvark]

And was a supporting character in MFS, and wasn't he also part of the JHH cast?

Yes he was.

 

[DarthGonzo]

He was also in Muppets Celebrate Jim Henson.

 

[JT Yorke]

Muppets Wizard of Oz

 

[Oscarfan]

The user claimed that they considered Clifford more of an EM member than Lips. I was pointing out how little Clifford had been with them in comparison to Lips. Not opening up his entire filmography.