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Snoop Doggy Dog (The Degenerate)

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Patty E.

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The Degenerate

Evil will assume a presence if we don't have the courage or make the effort to express ourselves.

A child need NOT be assaulted with violent images, vulgarity, trashy talk and demeaning references towards women.

You refer to his appearance as a "cameo." I call it an infomerical.

Sincerely,
Patty E.
 

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OMG! OMG! I just don't know quite what to say but OMG!:eek:
 

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Re: The Degenerate

Originally posted by Patty E.
Evil will assume a presence if we don't have the courage or make the effort to express ourselves.

A child need NOT be assaulted with violent images, vulgarity, trashy talk and demeaning references towards women.

You refer to his appearance as a "cameo." I call it an infomerical.

Sincerely,
Patty E.
"evil will assume a presence"? people actually talk like that? no offense, but that's about as ridiculous as anything i've ever heard. why would you think the Muppets would allow those type of images in their movie? because that's what you're saying...you're saying that the very PRESENCE of a person is the personification of all these things. while YOU might think so, kid's are not gonna know this. unless they're already watching things they shouldn't be. and if that's the case, well...i call that a failing on the parent's part
 

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Oops, posted the same thing twice. HowdIdodat? Edited out for redundancy.
 

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But it's good parents who stand up when anti-family programming is marketed as family entertainment. Not just those who govern their kids television. Both are important.

We can't take the attitude of "If you don't like crime in the streets, stay in the house." That's laissez-faire. I think Peggy has every right to not just change channels, but to promote healthy television as a fan. It's accountibility to your consumers.

People with family values buy cars and cereal and computers and Muppet videos. There's so much already for people who don't.

I wish I would've known about Eddie Murphy's @ss jokes before taking anyone to see Shrek. We definitely wouldn't have gone. Call me prudish, right-winger, televangelist or whatever. I don't want my kids repeating that joke or emulating said entertainer.

You may think it's fine for your kids. It's in your power to allow them to watch South Park or listen to Snoop Doggy Doo-Doo. My family is not in their target audience. As a consumer of Muppet Products, I'd like them to stay classy and not trashy. If not, I stop buying their product. You also have the right to protest if you think the Muppets aren't trashy enough, but clearly enough people respect women and love kids to turn the tide. At least this time.

Besides, Gortch really WAS awful. Edgy, sure. But try as they might, they didn't fit the SNL scene. Henson was destined for higher roads.
 

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I guess some people are just better off watching The 700 Club.
 

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Maybe I need a little clarification from that remark.

Are you saying I should quit buying Muppet videos, or that free speech is only limited to those who agree with you?

Could I as easily say, "Maybe some people are better off watching Crank Yankers????" :confused:
 

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It's a shame so many people here are so nasty about Snoop. He is a human being and has made mistakes, just like the rest of us. He has cleaned up (drug use that is) and is trying to bring his career in a different direction. Maybe some people don't like his music, or Ozzy, or Alice Cooper, or Prince, or whoever, but aren't the Muppets all about bringing it ALL together, dispite our differences? Just go back and watch the first Muppet film, they all got together, and they're all very different.

I'm diappointed. I always thought Muppet fans we're open minded to different things. Jim Henson may not have been a Snoop fan if he was still around, but he would have given him a chance.

Jon
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Originally posted by Jivepuppet
It's a shame so many people here are so nasty about Snoop. He is a human being and has made mistakes, just like the rest of us. He has cleaned up (drug use that is) and is trying to bring his career in a different direction. Maybe some people don't like his music, or Ozzy, or Alice Cooper, or Prince, or whoever, but aren't the Muppets all about bringing it ALL together, dispite our differences? Just go back and watch the first Muppet film, they all got together, and they're all very different.

I'm diappointed. I always thought Muppet fans we're open minded to different things. Jim Henson may not have been a Snoop fan if he was still around, but he would have given him a chance.

Jon
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sometimes it really does all come together. bravo jive puppet!! i agree with your statement of muppet fans being open minded. all of this talk about banning certain adult movies, wanting to stop a topic because they are tired of seeing it, oh and lets not forget about the evil, evil snoop dog. come on , is this really what the jim henson company is all about. the part i most agree on is that i believe jim henson himself would be very disappointed.
 

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I cannot believe what a fuss some of you are making about this! I thought this was a great effort (as was the Weezer video) to regain some of the credibility lost with adult audiences.

You wanna know what REALLY offends me? Laura Bush's appearance on SS. Y'all know Lara Bush, right? She's the wife of that vicious war monger who killed 4000 Afghans, executed more prisoners- some who were retarde and minors- than any other governor in American history, pushes to kill thousands more of the long-suffering Iraqis, gave tax cuts to the rich, and exploited the third world through free trade agreements. And our First Lady had the nerve to sit back with a big stupid smile on her face. [Cringe!]

But instead we're focusing the attention on Snoop Dogg for making some (presumably) lame porno and smoking pot.

WHY?????????

Please, people, don't be fooled into believing this Snoop Dogg cameo is important! The Henson Co. are allowed and should be allowed to work with whoever they want. Lt's bring attention to this whole little war thing going on. Isn't that more important than Snoop Dogg? Good Lord, I hope so...
 
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